Ted Roe stops in for a few minutes to discuss the AIAA statement on UFOs, NARCAP, pilot encounters, then guest Jack Brewer got interested in the many overlaps between NICAP and intelligence agencies.

Joining us for the first hour is, Stanford University School of Medicine professor, Garry Nolan discusses his years of research into the UFO phenomenon, as well as the study of alleged UFO crash mater

Guest Tom King was in Phoenix during the Phoenix Lights event on March 13, 1997. He discusses his longtime interest, Phoenix as a UFO hotspot and his extensive UFO filming. Show Notes