Shouldn’t the reduction of suffering be our priority when taking care of others’ needs—particularly the needs of those we can’t ask? Soon, CRISPR edited gene drives could alter the pain perception and hedonic range of any sexually reproducing species.

In the eighth episode of the podcast Ocean Wants, speculative writer Ingo Niermann, most recently of the book Mare Amoris, is talking to David Pearce, a transhumanist philosopher who advocates the abolition of all negative feelings. He speaks from his home in Brighton, UK.

— Ocean Wants, Institut Art Gender Nature dertank.ch and TBA21–Academy, ocean-archive.org