For episode 172, we were joined by two repeat guests, Patrick Rugiero of the National Kidney Foundation of Michigan to chat about their upcoming Kidney Ball event on December 3rd, and Caston Thomas of Interworks to talk a little about security and tech as he always does, but also some new things going on with the company's offerings and direction...

The National Kidney Foundation of Michigan is at: http://nkfm.org/

The Kidney Ball is at: http://www.nkfm.org/events/kidney-ball-0

Interworks is at: https://iworkstech.com/

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