Gene and Randall introduce Gray Scott, a futurist, philosopher, and artist who specializes in the philosophy of technology, digital consciousness, and humanity's technological evolution. Says Gray: “To understand the future of technology we must begin with one fundamental truth. Technology is natural and nature is technological. It is the voice of the cosmos. From the Saturn hexagon to African fractals to the Fibonacci sequence found in the growth patterns of every plant on Earth, we are surrounded by geometric, repetitive, numerical patterns—patterns we have only begun to recognize and quantify.” During the interview, Gray reveals his long-time interest in the paranormal and experiencers, UFO intelligences and the nature of the contact experience. He is also host of the "Futuristic Now" podcast.