Gene and Randall present UFO researcher Curt Collins, in an extended trip through the UFO field and how it influences and is influenced by pop culture.  Curt Collins is the author behind Blue Blurry Lines, a website focused on the UFO mysteries, as well as its legends and hoaxes.  In 2015 Curt was on the investigative team, the Roswell Slides Research Group, which exposed the BeWitness alien photo fiasco. More recently, he launched The Saucers That Time Forgot with Claude Falkstrom, focused on unearthing “tales that UFO history has overlooked or would rather forget.” A recent example is an article about mystery writer Dashiell Hammett, creator of Sam Spade, and how the flying saucer mystery influenced stories based on his characters.