Gene and Chris present yet another subject we haven't explored with John L. Steadman, author of "H.P. Lovecraft & the Black Magical Tradition," which explores "the real black magickal organizations that use Lovecraft's fictional constructs as a basis for their magickal workings; I argue that such constructs can be used in this manner and that the Lovecraftian entities are just as ontologically 'real' as traditional gods, goddesses and demons." John L. Steadman is a scholar of H. P. Lovecraft and western occultism and has been a magickal practitioner for more than thirty years. He is currently a college English professor at Olivet College in Michigan. And, yes, he has had paranormal encounters over the years.