This conversation explores the dual diagnosis of autism and Down Syndrome with guests Ashley Olthoff of the Down Syndrome Association of Minnesota and Marcy Rede, a parent of a young adult with the dual diagnosis. Ashley helps us understand how traits of individuals with Down Syndrome can overlap with autistic traits. Marcy describes how the parenting path she thought she was on with her daughter diverged and led to her daughter's autism diagnosis. Marcy thoughtfully describes her daughter's "in-between place" in the disability community. Show Notes National Down Syndrome Society page on dual diagnosis and related resources When Down Syndrome and Autism Intersect. Froehike, R.N., Zaborek, Robin. Bethesda, MD: Woodbine House. (2013) Down Syndrome - Autism Connection Down Syndrome Association of Minnesota (DSAMN) where you can find Ashley Olthoff. DSAMN's Autism and Down Syndrome - Minnesota Facebook Group where you can find Marcy Rede Acknowledgements This podcast episode was made possible thanks to a grant from the Minnesota Department of Human Services.