The Nickolas Natali Show
How UI Designers Optimize For Your Phone Addiction With Makoto Kern
July 05, 2024
In this conversation, Makoto Kern discusses his journey as an entrepreneur and the challenges he faced in the early stages of his career. He shares how he found his first gig on Craigslist and the project he worked on for Turtle Wax. Makoto also talks abo
The Nickolas Natali Show is a podcast with rotating guests that bring in new perspectives on how to live a more fulfilling life, grow your business, and enhance your relationships. More often than not, it’s a couple of kooky birds choppin’ it up. Uploads
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