In this episode of New Ideal Live, Elan Journo and Onkar Ghate discuss the controversy surrounding ARI’s acceptance of a Paycheck Protection Program loan. ARI previously announced it was seeking PPP relief and elaborated the moral justification for its position in an article and previous webinar.

Topics discussed include:

* Why ARI opposes the welfare state, and why it’s not hypocritical for opponents of welfare state programs to collect payments from these programs* Why the shaming of ARI in particular for receiving PPP loans stems from an anti-intellectual attitude aimed at shutting down critics* Why precise bookkeeping of one’s losses to the welfare state isn’t necessary for seeking restitution from it* Why Ayn Rand’s opposition to the welfare state is not the “standard conservative” position

Two articles by Ayn Rand are mentioned in the discussion: “The Question of Scholarships” and “The Establishing of an Establishment.”

This podcast was recorded on July 8, 2020. Watch or listen to the discussion below. Listen and subscribe from your mobile device on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or Stitcher. Watch archived web episodes here.

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