Why should form tags and submit events have all the fun? Carl and Richard talk to Carson Gross about htmx, a small Javascript library that extends HTML through attributes so that almost any element, on any event, can trigger a GET, POST, PUT, PATCH, or DELETE. Carson talks about building sophisticated web apps with HTML, rather than tons of JavaScript, and really getting into the original hypertext web metaphors - arguably the way Tim Berners Lee intended. With a simple learning curve, it doesn't take much effort to get started with htmx, just add a few attributes and start exploring what HTML really could be doing for your apps!