Nerd Journey: Career Advice for the Technology Professional

Nerd Journey: Career Advice for the Technology Professional


Burnout and Recovery with Josh Fidel

May 26, 2020

Welcome to episode 78 of the Nerd Journey Podcast [@NerdJourney]! We’re John White (@vJourneyman) and Nick Korte (@NetworkNerd_), two Pre-Sales Technical Engineers who are hoping to bring you the IT career advice that we wish we’d been given earlier in our careers. In today’s episode we discuss burnout and recovery with Josh Fidel @jcfidel.
Original Recording Date: 04-23-2020
Topic – Burnout and Recovery
2:14 – Burn Out and Bail Out

* Josh loved the job and the work he did within the Globals segment at VMware.
* The pressure put on Josh and his teammates was immense. Each was responsible for $15M in sales for the year.
* The sales cycles in large organizations are lengthy, and planning has to happen in advance (possibly years in advance of when a purchase may be made).

* Josh was thinking about what would happen in the next 1-2 years with these customers and not what would happen in the next two weeks to close a deal.
* Everything was more visible to leadership.

* The traveling was so much that Josh would get home on Friday and have to get back on a plane by Monday morning. It was detrimental to his family life.
* One day he woke up in a hotel room, did not remember where he was, who he was supposed to meet with, and what the meeting was about.

* "This is insane." – Josh Fidel
* He sat on the edge of the bed in frustration and realized he was destroying his physical and emotional health as well as the relationship with his family.
* "This company won’t look after me when I am old." – Josh Fidel
* "I needed to take a step back." – Josh Fidel
* Josh scheduled back surgery soon after this.

* "I’m building these crystal palaces at the cost of what really matters." – Josh Fidel
* After 3 months home with the family, Josh did not want to go back.
* He got to do something awesome that few people will get to do but needed to take care of what was important.

9:52 – A Look at Josh’s Current State

* The pressure is much less, and all the tools are in his toolbox now.
* He is happier now and gets to spend more time with his family.
* Looking back, Josh said his temper grew shorter before reaching the breaking point.

* He would tolerate poor decision making less and would be more vocal about it.
* Other people commented on him being "wound up."
* People don’t see these things while caught up in them. He had a goal and became so focused that the signs were missed.
* Josh thinks he may not have practiced mindfulness at the time. He may not have come to such abrupt decisions.
* It’s much easier to stay up late working now and only lose 30 minutes of sleep compared to having to fly back home from another country.

* John makes an interesting point about western culture and the expected role and perception of men.

* Josh has learned to overcome toxic masculinity by being comfortable with him self and what he is doing.
* Many people have a hard time being honest with themselves.
* Some of the most competent people in technology Josh knows are a little quirky.

* Maybe establishing the brand first allows you to be yourself later?

* Josh is confident he won’t have to worry about the next job because he is good what he does, and other people know it.