Ellen Swallow Richards graduated from MIT in 1873 and later became an instructor there. In this edition of the MIT Alumni Books podcast, Richards's cousin, three generations removed, tells the story of Richards's remarkable life. Pamela Curtis Swallow discusses "The Swallow Experiment" and the legacy of her forebear. "What a difference she made in her years at MIT," she says. "I'm so proud of her. I can't believe I've got some of the same genes."