As we got a month or so into the pandemic, it became pretty clear that many of us wouldn't be able to get much value from travel credit cards.

When you consider how much some of annual fees can be on various cards, it's important to make sure you're getting enough value to keep those cards in your wallet/purse.

Who best to discuss the best credit card perks out there? How about a guy who showed up to his first podcast appearance with a ziploc baggie filled with credit cards!

Julian Kheel, Senior Finance Editor at CNN joins us this week to take about his favorite credit card perks.

We don't get to touch on all of his favorites, so you can read the rest of them here.

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