Ken talks with Lisa Hendey the author of “The Grace of Yes: Eight Virtues for Generous Living” and Jon Sweeney author of “When Saint Francis Saved the Church: How a Converted Medieval Troubadour Created a Spiritual Vision for the Ages” (both published by Ave Maria Press) Lisa talks about pivotal moments of her own spiritual journey, and reflects candidly on real-life struggles, and the profound lingering grief she confronted at a Rwandan genocide memorial and the astounding willingness of survivors there to forgive.
Lisa’s book is available at:  https://www.avemariapress.com/product/1-59471-472-X/The-Grace-of-Yes/#description_tab 
To learn more about Lisa visit: http://lisahendey.com/ , http://catholicmom.com/  and she blogs at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lisahendey/
 
Jon M. Sweeney, author of numerous popular books on St. Francis as well as the recent bestseller “The Pope Who Quit”, offers a surprising new look at the world’s most popular saint, showing how this beloved, but often-mythologized character created a spiritual vision for the ages and may very well have rescued the Christian faith.  Jon presents an intriguing portrait of Francis beyond the readily familiar stories and images.
Jon’s book is available at: https://www.avemariapress.com/product/1-59471-486-X/When-Saint-Francis-Saved-the-Church/