Signals From Mars Podcast
Podcast Episode 157- Anthrax Storytellers With John Bush
During this episode, we welcome John Bush back to the show to discuss the studio albums of original material he appeared on while he was in Anthrax. Similar to episode 156, the Armored Saint storytellers episode, I select a number of tracks from Sound Of White Noise, Stomp 442, Volume 8: The Threat Is Real, and We’ve Come For You All. But we do veer from there to discuss the albums overall, videos that were made along the way, the Ball Of Confusion cover, which saw Joey Belladonna duet with John, and why he speculates the tour with both singers never took place. Why the band never completed the Maximum Rocks tour with Motley Crue and Megadeth, as well as how constant label, manager, and member changes with each one of these albums hurt the band during his tenure.
Would John Bush ever consider playing these songs again live? You’ll have to listen in and find out, as he answers that question directly.
Thanks to Nikki Law and John Bush for making this episode possible.
Support the bands you love, and help the podcast out at the same time, click on any of the links below to pick up any of the albums we discuss during this episode.
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Here are some highlights from the interview, please listen to the entire show to hear his full comments on any one of these subjects:
On meeting Elektra’s president Sylvia Rhone telling them “I never would have done a record deal with you guys”: And this was after we had just finished making this record (Stomp 442) and you don’t know what to say to that. If that’s how you think, how can we expect that you are going to do right by the band? And they didn’t. So to have that going into this record we knew that would be a problem, and it was. It sold half of what Sound Of White Noise did, and people can argue, it wasn’t as good as Sound Of White Noise. It didn’t have as many good songs as Sound Of White Noise, that’s all for the public to debate, I’m not going to think of that too much. I have to look at it in an honest way and say that maybe it wasn’t as solid throughout as Sound Of White Noise, but I still think there were a few songs that were really, really good. For example, those first two (Random Acts Of Senseless Violence and Fueled), and to know going in that we were going to have that response from the label, it was a pretty down time. We knew we were going to be fighting a lot of uphill battles which we ended up doing. There were some great moments associated to that record but in the end, the results from the label were just terrible, and it hurt us.
On Dan Spitz teaching Dimebag leads for songs off of Stomp 442: I would empathically have to say that is not true, I don’t think Dime was learning leads on those songs from Danny, no, definitely not. I think he was already out of the picture, and it was why we got Dime. We didn’t know what to do as far as leads on some of the songs, so we asked him to play on some songs. So, no, I don’t think that was the case at all. Well it wouldn’t definitely make sense, why would we have the guy that’s being let go tell this guy coming in how to play a lead, it’s just illogical. Charlie might have given him his opinion on what direction he wanted him to go in, because Charlie is basically the overseer of the music of Anthrax, that just what he is. He might have given him his opinion on it, but certainly wasn’t “hey this is how you should play it”...