This episode features a great event from the 2023 Portland Book Festival on the relationships between humans and animals, and on our ideas about the meaning of animals.  

Erica Berry is the author of Wolfish: Wolf, Self, and the Stories We Tell About Fear, winner of the 2024 Oregon Book Award in creative nonfiction. Erica is based in her hometown of Portland, Oregon, and teaches in Literary Arts Writers in the schools program.  

Sabrina Imbler is the author of How Far the Light Reaches: A Life in Ten Sea Creatures, which was the winner of the 2022 Los Angeles Times Book Prize in Science and Technology. Sabrina writes about creatures and the natural world for Defector. Like me, you might have first encountered Sabrina’s work when their New York Times article “When an Eel Climbs a Ramp to Eat Squid from a Clamp, That’s a Moray” went viral in 2021.  

 As curious and insightful non-scientists writing about the natural world, Sabrina and Erica each fully embrace their subjectivity in their nonfiction, their own personal perspectives. Both writers explore the human tendency to see ourselves in the natural world: We must accept our own animal-ness to know ourselves.  

Our moderator is Elena Passarello, whom you might know as the announcer on Live Wire Radio, and who is also “on the animal beat” thanks to her book of essays, Animals Strike Curious Poses, which won the 2018 Oregon Book Award in creative nonfiction.  

Erica Berry is a writer based in her hometown of Portland, Oregon. She has an MFA from the University of Minnesota, where she was a College of Liberal Arts Fellow. Her writing has appeared in The Guardian, The New York Times Magazine, The Yale Review, Outside Magazine, Catapult, The Atlantic, Guernica, and elsewhere. Winner of the Steinberg Essay Prize and the Kurt Brown Prize in Nonfiction, she has received fellowships and funding from the Bread Loaf Writers Conference, Tin House, the Ucross Foundation, the Minnesota State Arts Board, and the Institute for Journalism and Natural Resources. A former Writer-in-Residence with the National Writers Series in Traverse City, Michigan, she is currently a Writer-in-the-Schools with Literary Arts in Portland. Wolfish is her first book. 

Sabrina Imbler is a writer for Defector, a sports and culture site, where they write about creatures and the natural world. Their first full-length book, How Far the Light Reaches, won a 2022 LA Times Book Prize. Their chapbook Dyke (geology) was selected for the National Book Foundation’s Science + Literature program. Sabrina lives in Brooklyn with their partner, a school of fish, and their cats, Sesame and Melon  

Elena Passarello is an actor, essayist, and recipient of a 2015 Whiting Award. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, Paris Review, and The Best American Science and Nature Writing 2018, and has been translated into German, Italian, French, and Mandarin. She is the author of the essay collections Let Me Clear My Throat and Animals Strike Curious Poses, the latter of which won the 2018 Oregon Book Award in Creative Nonfiction and made the Best Books of 2017 lists in the New York Times, Guardian, and Publisher’s Weekly. Passarello teaches creative writing at Oregon State University and appears weekly on the PRX radio variety show Live Wire.