Older & Wilder

Older & Wilder


Taylor Swift and Moab Moves

August 21, 2025

Moving to Moab, Taylor Swift's Easter Eggs, and Managing Finances with Your Partner


In this episode of the Older and Wiser podcast, hosts Joy and Claire kick off the episode with lively discussions about various topics. They share an update on their upcoming move to Moab, discussing the real estate market and their plans to rent out their current home. The conversation then shifts to Taylor Swift's recent album release, her appearance on the New Heights Podcast, and the intricate web of Easter eggs her fans analyze. Finally, the hosts answer a listener's question about how they manage their finances with their partners, comparing their different approaches to handling joint and separate accounts. Join in for an engaging chat about life updates, pop culture, and practical relationship advice.


01:14 Episode Agenda and Topics

01:55 Moving to Moab

03:22 Real Estate Market Insights

05:11 Renting Out the House

07:07 Concerns About the Move

08:36 Kids' School Transition

10:20 Taylor Swift's New Album

11:55 Taylor Swift's Podcast Appearance

16:42 Criticism and Public Perception

20:41 Podcast Review and Final Thoughts

25:21 Desiring More Personal Insights

26:02 Podcast Easter Egg Idea

26:55 Taylor Swift on the Podcast

30:23 Peru Trip Updates

34:10 Listener Question: Managing Finances in Marriage