Intersections with Phil Allen, Jr.

Episode: 024 “To Want to Be Black: People of the Resurrection Pt. 1”

Airdate: March 29, 2021

Length: 57:49

Guests: Dr. Roslyn Satchel

Dr. Roslyn Satchel brings passion and energy like no other to conversation around race, culture, and theology. In this episode with Dr. Satchel she invites us into her story which began in Jacksonville, FL and is still being written today in Malibu, CA as a professor of communications at Pepperdine University. She shares the influences that are foundational in her life: her parents, with her father being her first educator—laying the foundation for the educator she would later become, Ms. Jones-Spaulding, her elementary school teacher that saw greatness in her and believed in her, and her experience at Howard University, one of the most prestigious Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).

Dr. Satchel is a scholar, an activist, a lawyer, a minister, a professor, a mother, and author. She serves as the Blanche E. Seaver Professor of Communications at Pepperdine University. She is also a Berkman Klein Center Fellow at Harvard Law School.

In this episode of a two-part conversation Dr. Satchel delves into the research and content of her book What Movies Teach Us About Race: Exceptionalism, Erasure, and Entitlement. She talks about how film has created and sustained the narrative around race and perpetuating the racialized hierarchy of racism. Far from just entertainment, film is shaping the minds and identities of white people and people of color alike. In this episode we engage white supremacy, film, the church and HBCUs.

You can follow Dr. Satchel on Twitter @rsatchel, on Instagram @docrazzledazzle, on Facebook at Roslyn M. Satchel. Her website is www.rsatchel.com or www.whatmoviesteach.com.

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Phil Allen, Jr. is a Los Angeles-based pastor, social justice activist, filmmaker and author. Allen’s book Open Wounds explores the murder of Nate Allen—Phil Allen’s grandfather—in the Jim Crow era of South Carolina and how that traumatic event resonated through generations of his family. Open Wounds – which is based on the Allen-produced documentary of the same name – was published on February 9, 2021. Allen is a Ph.D. student studying Christian ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA.