In this episode of iDS Talks, host Bobby Williams, Director and DEI Chair at iDS, sits down with Steffon Isaac, Founder and CEO of The CLU Studio, to explore how perspective shapes success.

They discuss what it means to step back, see the bigger picture, and build emotionally intelligent teams that thrive in constant change. From digital forensics to leadership consulting, Bobby and Steffon draw surprising parallels between their worlds—showing how context, curiosity, and empathy drive better outcomes in business and beyond.

The conversation dives into why perspective is an essential skill for leaders and investigators alike, how trust and safety fuel innovation and collaboration, and how teams can develop a big-picture mindset even while managing the smallest details. Steffon shares how lessons from photography and multiple lenses can shift how we view challenges, people, and growth.

Whether you lead teams, manage data, or want to approach your work differently, this episode challenges how you think about leadership and perspective.