Penguins not only endure, but thrive in, some of the harshest environments on the planet – which is why they have a lot to teach us in terms of resilience at work, particularly in this time of the global coronavirus pandemic.

Today our host Genevieve Jacobs is joined by Susan Mann, a speaker, coach and people, strategy and culture consultant who specialises in professional and personal development programs. She has a huge passion for the natural world and she's traveled with her husband to the most remote islands across the globe to see all 18 penguin species in the wild.

And he's with us too, Charles Bergman is a writer, photographer and professor of English at the Pacific Lutheran University who pioneered nature literature and study abroad courses.

On the HR Breakfast Club podcast series, we look at the intersection of the world of work, often with a legal twist. For more resources, head to our website www.hrbreakfastclub.com.au.