This week, meet Amy Canton and Clark Williams, my (Matthew's) sister and brother. I couldn't be prouder of them, or more excited for you to hear about our shared history and their own personal journeys out of religious trauma. The conversation took some very unexpected turns: parts of our own stories were rewritten in real time as we shared and learned new information about major moments in each other's lives that we didn't know until they were said out loud on this recording. It was simply a gift, and there is so much here to give anyone with religious pain and trauma hope and a guidepost on the path toward healing.

Music in this episode is from Hymns to the Earth, by Jenne Sluder and Clark Williams.