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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

New Jersey anti-gun rights, Soros center, gun violence research, taxpayer funding, gun rights suppression, Biden administration, gun laws, flare guns, carry killer law, gun safes, gun boxes, gun control, Second Amendment, gun rights organizations, gun legislation.

SPEAKERS

Teddy Nappen, Speaker 2, Evan Nappen

Evan Nappen 00:15 I’m Evan Nappen.

Teddy Nappen 00:16 And I’m Teddy Nappen.

Evan Nappen 00:18
And welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, New Jersey has funded their anti-gun rights propaganda center, what I call the acronym of SOROS, which is the State Office of Rights Oppression and Suppression. And what this office does is exactly that. It is funded by you, the taxpayer, and it was part of the $58.8 billion spending package that the New Jersey legislature enacted, which includes $3 million of your taxpayer dollars to fund the so-called, what the oppressionists call, the New Jersey Gun Violence Research Center. This is the propaganda arm, and it is the center that is dedicated to taking away and limiting in any way they can come up with the rights, the Constitutional rights, concerning the keep and bear arms amendment that we so cherish.

Evan Nappen 01:40
So, the budget including the $3 million was signed into law by (Governor) Murphy on June 30th. Now there was a whole hoopla, because originally they were actually going to cut a million dollars from this, but the legislators themselves went and said, oh no, no, we can’t do that. We can’t do that. We still have to spend the full $3 million taxpayer dollars on the SOROS center. So, The Trace, believe it or not, The Trace is essentially an anti-gun rights national organization, think tank. They are the folks that are the opposite, if you will, of the gun rights organizations that fight vigorously to defend our rights. We make sure that we read and do what’s called “opposition research”. And it was The Trace that actually brought this out, of course, in a very positive way. The Trace was pleased as punch that New Jersey has done it. In an article from TheTrace.org, it says, as a matter of fact, the article, you can read it yourself, is “Major Gun Violence Research Hub Escapes Crippling Funding Cuts”. (https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/new-jersey-gun-violence-research-funding/)

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Evan Nappen 03:06
Yes, that’s right. New Jersey has done just that. In a statement to The Trace on July 1, 2025, it says, a spokesperson for Murphy said the governor was pleased to continue funding the center. “From day one, our Administration has remained steadfast in our efforts to create a stronger, fairer, and safer New Jersey . . .” At the expense, of course, of what? Our rights. So, that’s what they do. It doesn’t accomplish their goals at all in terms of what the governor stated, but it sure does fund the anti-rights suppression movement. The spokesman further said to The Trace, “Through the several policies, laws, and initiatives implemented over the past seven and a half years, we have recognized historic lows in gun violence across the state.”

Evan Nappen 04:04
Yeah, like that has anything to do with The Trace or gun laws. Of course, it has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, gun crime itself and those statistics deal exclusively with what does and doesn’t get reported. And as they say, statistics are like prisoners of war. They can be tortured to say anything you want. Furthermore, the article states “New Jersey remains a model for how other states can take meaningful action to reduce gun violence, said New Jersey Assemblyman Craig Coughlin, a Democrat. This funding reflects our ongoing commitment to public safety and saving lives.” Yeah, ongoing commitment to funding the suppression of our gun rights and to have a propaganda mill able to do that very thing at the expense of you, the taxpayer, the law-abiding gun owner, who pays taxes to New Jersey. That’s where your money’s going, folks. That’s the state that we live in.

Evan Nappen 05:14
So, this is also important nationally. As I’m sure you should be aware, President Trump has cut funding for all kinds of anti-gun rights suppression activity, including to various agencies that would also go and attempt to fund other Soros-type agencies, you know, where they are going at our rights. And the idea here, with New Jersey being this state funder, is to try to convince other states, of course, to do their own state office of rights oppression and suppression. So, New Jersey is leading the way in the propaganda research area of trying to use these things. They then take these studies and use them to further the agenda legislatively and also in terms of litigation. This is the function of these groups, and what makes it particularly disgusting is that it is using taxpayer dollars to accomplish it. What do you think about that, Teddy?

Teddy Nappen 06:38
Oh, quite frankly, this goes back to the Biden administration with the Gun Violence Prevention Office. They had, if I recall, appointed two members, one of which was out of Giffords, and one of the other Bloomberg-backed groups who was there, appointed into the administration to help deliver the funding to the states, creating their various safe offices. So, be on the lookout. This is not going to just be in New Jersey. There are many states that have safe offices and are looking to add more, because this is how they’ve taken very much the Soros strategy. Start locally and let it grow, and they start harping down on our rights, state by state. It’s cancer that they used to spread.

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Evan Nappen 07:30
And that’s an excellent point. This is their work around because Trump killed the funding to the Biden propaganda office. So, the idea now is go to the states to get the funding to continue their propaganda efforts attacking our rights. This is the new game, and folks need to be aware of this very thing.

Evan Nappen 07:55
Hey, I’d like to also mention that New York Democrats are now targeting flare guns. That’s right, flare guns, folks. They have to find anything that shoots and criminalize it. And in New York, apparently, there was some episode where some juveniles misused a flare gun. So, of course, the answer whenever there’s a single, isolated problem, is to make sure that everybody suffers. This is the legislative philosophy I call of lowest common denominator. You take the lowest problematic thing. Then you make that a modus to suppress rights, and this is what they’re doing in New York. They’re now putting a bill forward to make it unlawful to have sale and distribution of the flare gun to anyone under 21, even though you might want to be out boating younger than that. Well, that’s just too bad. No flare guns for you. You can just die at sea without having any flares to save your life. Then they also have a second bill that they want to add flare gun to the list of weapons in which you can be charged with “criminal possession of a weapon” for anyone who possesses or uses them, “with the intent to harm someone”. Which is always very speculative, isn’t it? So, that these laws can be readily abused on citizens. This is really a non-issue. But of course, anytime they can ban anything that shoots, they want to do it. I grabbed this from the news site called Bearing Arms, and the article is by Cam Edwards. And it’s “New York Dems Now Targeting Flare Guns”. (https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2025/07/10/new-york-dems-now-targeting-flare-guns-n1229214) Now, interestingly.

Teddy Nappen 10:05
I’m kind of curious, though. Isn’t there, in its if they’re calling there like, an insert that you can put into a flare gun to shoot .22s?

Evan Nappen 10:12
Well, that’s not even an issue here. Because if you do that and make it an actual firearm, but interesting, you know, that is something that does possibly exist. But it isn’t even something they’re mentioning here. New Jersey, by the way, yes, those inserts do exist. New Jersey, by the way, does not, surprisingly, brace yourself, does not yet prohibit flare guns. As a matter of fact, flare guns themselves are defined in New Jersey as a visual distress signal, and it is legal to possess flare guns under Jersey law, under certain exemptions. You can look specifically to N.J.S. 2C:39-6.f.(4), where it says a person may keep and carry a United States Coast Guard approved visual distress signaling device about a private commercial aircraft or boat and transport them to and from such vessel for purpose of installation and repair.

Evan Nappen 11:18
And it further says that the U.S. Coast Guard approved visual distress signaling device, this is under N.J.S. 2C: 58-3(l.), are exempt for the sale and purchase from requiring a handgun purchase permit or a New Jersey Firearms Purchaser ID Card. So, you can buy these without a permit, and you can have them. They need to be Coast Guard, United States Coast Guard, approved, of course, but you can go

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to the marine store in Jersey and acquire said flare guns. I’ve always wondered. You know, there’s lots, I guess, mayhem could always be done with anything, including a flare gun. I just hope nobody ever fires a flare gun into a fireworks store or something. That would be terrible or near a gas station. I mean, those are the kind of things that I guess one could worry about, but banning them isn’t going to stop criminals. You know, criminals aren’t going to care, and this is just another restriction on our rights. But currently in New Jersey, that is the law on flare guns.

Evan Nappen 12:33
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Evan Nappen 13:52
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Evan Nappen 14:44
Let me also mention our good friends at the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. (ANJRPC.org)The Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs is an umbrella organization of gun clubs throughout New Jersey, and they have individual members, too. They are the stalwart defender of our gun rights in New Jersey, and they’re the ones currently litigating in Federal court. We recently had some action on our appeals in the federal court, which New Jersey is challenging. The assault firearm ban, the mag ban, and the Carry Killer bill. We should see some more opinions coming out of that as we work our way, most likely, to the U.S. Supreme Court defending New Jersey gun rights.

Evan Nappen 15:28
Also, when you’re a member, you’ll get the email update so you’ll know all the sneaky stuff going on in Trenton. All the gun rights oppression and suppression that Trenton is always trying to do to us. And as you know, the recent victory by the Association in delaying that God-awful package of gun bills that Murphy and the Democrats were trying to shove down our throats that we’ve talked about on the show, that’s been delayed, and they’ve recessed for the summer. So, for the moment, that has been averted from further harming law-abiding New Jersey gun owners. Make sure you belong to the Association of

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New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs at ANJRPC.org. anjrpc.org. Be part of the solution. Make sure you’re a member.

Evan Nappen 16:21
Let me also mention my book, New Jersey Gun Law, the Bible of New Jersey gun law. That is where, my friends, you will learn to protect yourself and not become a GOFU and not end up a victim of New Jersey gun laws. I’ve written it to be very user friendly. I’ve written it in a manner of question and answer on 120 topics so that even you could understand New Jersey gun laws. Go to EvanNappen.com. EvanNappen.com. You’ll see the big orange book. Click it and order your copy today. When you get the book, scan the QR code on the front and make sure you subscribe, for free, to my private database. So, if any of these new laws pass that affect you, you’ll be sent a notice about the new laws. The book stays current. You’ll also have access to the archives. And make sure you download the 2025 Comprehensive Update, which includes a standalone chapter on “sensitive places”. Teddy, tell us about what you have in Press Checks today.

Teddy Nappen 17:34
I want to kind of take a moment just to embrace the power that has come from the fact that the big, beautiful bill, with the removal of the NFA (National Firearms Act) tax. It has finally hit the head of the gun rights oppressors reeling like, oh my God, we are losing this battle. And you can always tell. The way to get your finger on the pulse of what they’re thinking and the realization that they are losing this fight to take away our rights, as always, for us, we look to The Trace. You can get a clear thought process of how they’re thinking and how they’re processing it. And finally, it’s coming together that the hammer Bruen to them is like coming to the realization that it is going to knock out the all the gun laws that they have been pushing for. As we can see here from The Trace, they pushed out this insane article by Chip Brownlee, called “Muskets v. AR-15: Judges Are Throwing Out Gun Restrictions Because Of Antiquated Gun Laws From America’s Founding”. (https://www.thetrace.org/2025/06/gun- laws-history-supreme-court-bruen/)

Evan Nappen 18:51
Oh, you mean, what the Second Amendment was actually about?

Teddy Nappen 18:53 Correct.

Evan Nappen 18:55
I see, I see. Right. Of course, muskets were the AR-15 of the day. I mean.

Teddy Nappen 19:01
Yes, and the reason they are freaking out is that recently, there was a case, going from the article by Chip Brownlee, in Mississippi, where the U.S. District Judge delivered a ruling that was unthinkable. He found that a decade old federal ban on machine guns was unconstitutional.

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Evan Nappen 19:30
Ooooh yeah. And, you know, the machine gun challenge is also tied into the NFA challenge that we’re seeing, and with the removal of taxes from so many of those items. So, what’s great is the pro-gun rights forces are finally taking on machine guns. It’s only been since 1934. But, of course, we needed the trifecta of Heller, McDonald and Bruen, and we are definitely living in exciting times.

Teddy Nappen 20:02
What was very hilarious, though, about this case is the gun that the guy had, he had an AR-15.

Evan Nappen 20:09
Was it full auto? The AR-15?

Teddy Nappen 20:13
Full auto, full auto. But here’s the funny thing. It had a happy switch. Here’s the gun. It was called the NFA Whore. The Whore-16. He actually.

Evan Nappen 20:13
Oh, a Whore-16. It better be 16, at least, right?

Teddy Nappen 20:28
And the happy switch, here’s the three modes.

Evan Nappen 20:32
What are the three modes? Whoa, whoa. Let’s make it clear? What are the three modes of the Whore- 16? Go ahead.

Teddy Nappen 20:40
Yeah. For safe, it’s Mary. For semi-automatic, it’s slut. And for fully automatic, it’s Whore.

Evan Nappen 20:51
Wow, and it’s literally the happy switch.

Teddy Nappen 20:55
Yeah, exactly. And he also had a bunch of the 20.

Evan Nappen 20:59
You know, I think the Whore-16 would probably sell pretty well.

Teddy Nappen 21:03
Yep, but this just, aside from the other insanity that the rifle that was brought out. Reading this article.

Evan Nappen 21:12
Well, wouldn’t it be funny if the Whore-16 is the one that actually kills the machine gun ban, once and for all?

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Teddy Nappen 21:19
I know. That would be. The Whore-16.

Evan Nappen 21:21 Yeah, hey.

Evan Nappen 21:22
Well, it takes time, but it’s effect is definitely working.

Teddy Nappen 21:22
But, reading this article, you see, like they’re learning. They actually have processed it. Like, wait a second, this Bruen thing is actually pretty bad. I remember sitting in and listening to them talk about, like, the early CLEs are like, oh, this won’t have much effect on gun rights, on gun control laws. Really? Really. And now, finally, it’s coming to their realization. All it took was, what is it, three years since Bruen?

Teddy Nappen 21:37
Yeah, but it was very funny. Judge Reeves made it clear that this decision had little to do with the weapons offensive branding or the intensifying public safety threat posed by automatic weapons.

Evan Nappen 22:11
I would think that the left would like that branding. I mean, that’s, you know. I thought they’re, you know. It seems like it’s right up there with what they like. I don’t know.

Teddy Nappen 22:21
But it leans heavily on the Bruen decision, which, in their words, upends the mandate, the mandate that modern gun law regulations align with historical firearm regulations. Suddenly, judges were less arbiters of modern safety and more reluctant, tasked with the findings of 18th, 19th century parallels.

Evan Nappen 22:50
Well, there you go. Isn’t that cute? So, imagine that. They’re more concerned with actual rights than propaganda, where they put the name safety on any kind of ban they want to see stay in place. Okay? They just call things safety that have nothing to do with safety. Do you want to talk about a real safety law? You know, maybe we could really talk about real safety, but when you’re simply using that as a front for your lies. It’s not surprising that we can see truth now and then shine through. It’s actually refreshing, isn’t it?

Teddy Nappen 23:33
Yeah, but what also boggles my mind. We have, I mean, it’s very well established that gun control is racist. All the arguments they have to make about the historical gun laws are racist, and they even point.

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Evan Nappen 23:49
And modern gun laws are racist. We’ve shown exactly how New Jersey gun laws are quantifiably racist.

Teddy Nappen 23:58
Correct, and they point that out in the article, fully knowing that their argument even right here. Undoubtedly, today’s disarmament of religious minorities would be understood as abhorrent, reprehensible, and a violation of the Equal Protection Clause — as it would be categorically disarmament of Blacks and Native Americans, another practice pervasive in our country’s historical tradition. But, considered solely for the limited purpose of a historical inquiry required by Bruen. So, put aside that we are arguing horrible racist laws to make our anti-gun argument work, and you know, realize.

Evan Nappen 24:44
And, you know, the left embraces racism as long as it’s fitting their agenda, and not just with guns. You see the racist left all the time coming out, whether it’s argument here to somehow justify gun laws that themselves modern day have institutionalized racism in them, to other political positions where they’re blatantly racist against certain ethnic groups that they don’t like. We see that all day long. So, the funny thing is, they try to portray the right as racist, but it is truly the left that is. And they are shameless, shameless, when it comes to their embracing of racism when it suits their purposes. Well, Teddy, thank you for pointing that out. I’m sure we’re all very excited about the Whore-16 making head way in the laws. And it is great to see the Whore-16 knocking out laws in the penal code.

Evan Nappen 26:02
Okay, I have a letter here. This is a letter to Ask Evan. This is from Greg, who wants to know if the Recover G7A holster is a legal holster for New Jersey. Now, when you say legal, we’re talking about legal to use with your carry gun, not legal to possess. You can possess them. There are no holster prohibitions in terms of just possessing a holster. But, if you want to use certain holsters when you carry your handgun, Greg is asking about carrying concealed with this specific holster. We have to go to the Murphy Carry Killer law that defines holster. You’ll find that definition in New Jersey’s Carry killer law. If you want to read it for yourself, you’re welcome to do that. You simply go to N.J.S. 2C:58-4 and go to subsection h. And here’s what it says. For purposes of this section, “holster” means a device or sheath that securely retains a handgun, which, at a minimum, conceals and protects the main body of the firearm, maintains the firearm in consistent and accessible position and renders the trigger covered and inaccessible while the handgun is fully seated In the holster.

Evan Nappen 27:40
If one looks at the Recover G7A, you will see that it does meet the first part because it is securely retains the gun. And it does meet the third part about keeping it in a consistent and accessible position. And it does meet the fourth part of it. The requirement where it renders the trigger covered and inaccessible. However, the second part that says conceals and protects the main body of the firearm. Unfortunately, the G7A is a minimalist-type holster, and it does not, in my opinion, adequately meet the requirement under subsection h. for concealing and protecting the main body, because there’s still a substantial portion of the receiver exposed and the entire slide, the bottom of the receiver, the receiver that protrudes forward, and the receiver that protrudes backwards. So, you’re going to be really, really,

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really, having to make some tough arguments there when it comes to that holster. I cannot recommend that you carry using that holster under New Jersey’s current Carry Liller law.

Evan Nappen 29:29
Hey, now is the moment you all been waiting for, which is this week’s GOFU. That’s the Gun Owner Fuck Up. The Gun Owner Fuck Ups are expensive mistakes that gun owners make under the gun laws that you get to learn for free so you don’t make them. And let me tell you about this week’s GOFU. It concerns something that came from actual cases. And it is a tip, some tips, so that you don’t end up having this problem. And here’s what it is. Most of us keep our firearms secured in gun safes. Gun safes are a great modern invention. They allow for you to store your firearms that you’re not using safely and securely. To store them from theft and unauthorized access. Gun safe serve a great, legitimate purpose.

Evan Nappen 30:25
However, a gun safe is often readily identifiable as a gun safe. And if you have a gun safe in your garage, in your basement, or in a bedroom, and you have it proudly displayed, and many of them are quite beautiful. They really do beautiful work to the front of many of the, particularly the higher end, gun safes. They look like, you know, just gorgeous in their colors and finish, and often the decals and the workmanship. And I understand that. But I have to say that I would highly recommend that you hang, what works very well is you hang a blanket that will drape over the front of your gun safe. You can go to like Harbor Freight, and they sell these very powerful round magnets. They’re like, I don’t know, maybe three inches or so in diameter. Get three of those, three or four of those magnets, and you can secure the blanket to the top of your gun safe. It just hangs that blanket or other covering down in front of your gun safe.

Evan Nappen 31:36
So, if anybody happens to be in your house and they look around, you know, a workman, or, most importantly, police that happen to come in your house for something unrelated, for whatever that might reason might be, or medical, EMTs, or government for any reason, comes in your house and they just take a quick glance around, what they’re going to see is the blanket. They will not see what is behind it and not readily identify it as a gun safe. We’ve had cases where things have been observed like that so that individuals know what somebody has in their house. And then I believe they get targeted for confiscation if the opportunity ever knocks to take the guns, because it’s known that there is a gun safe there. So, there would be a pile of guns.

Evan Nappen 32:36
The other thing I would highly advise as a related GOFU is not to have your empty gun boxes lying around or stacked in a way which individuals can readily see that you have gun boxes. Many of us take our guns, hopefully most of us take our guns out of the boxes, and do not store our guns in the safe in the boxes, because of room considerations and considerations of storage, for humidity and protection and also the ability to look at our guns when we want to look at them. So, if you have a pile of empty gun boxes, put your gun boxes in a plastic container. You can go to Home Depot, and they have those black containers with the yellow lids. I’m sure you’ve seen them, or whatever works for you. But don’t leave your gun boxes in the open for anyone that happens to be in your house to see them. It’s also

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good to help avoid theft by either criminals or law enforcement. You don’t want to have yourself out there. You want to keep your firearm possession private and as low key as you can. So, don’t leave gun boxes lying around, stacked and loaded and packed up so folks can see them. You know, stacked up so folks can see that you have lots of gun boxes. That would mean you have lots of guns. And try to have a covering over your gun safe.

Evan Nappen 34:18
This is Evan Nappen and Teddy Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 2 34:32
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