Episode 231-The Oppression Continues 

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

New Jersey gun laws, Second Amendment, anti-gun bills, digital instructions, accidental discharge, felony offense, domestic violence restraining order, constitutional carry, concealed carry reciprocity, knife owners protection act, travelers gun rights act, gun owner gulag, press checks, gun lawyer.

SPEAKERS

Evan Nappen, Speaker 2, Teddy Nappen

Evan Nappen 00:15 I’m Evan Nappen.

Teddy Nappen 00:17 And I’m Teddy Nappen.

Evan Nappen 00:19

And welcome to Gun Lawyer. I have a lot of news. Teddy has a lot to report. We have a really big show for you today. Let’s start with New Jersey’s continuous oppression of our Second Amendment rights.

Teddy Nappen 00:35

You would think that Murphy would get tired?

Evan Nappen 00:37

Yeah, no. He’s never gets tired of socking it to gun owners, and this is bad.

Teddy Nappen 00:43 Of course.

Evan Nappen 00:43

You have to know about it, and you need to take steps to fight it. And one of the things you can do to fight it is make sure you belong to the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They’ve been sending out the updates and the emails that have the automatic ways that you can let your voice be heard. It’s really important. Go to a n j r p c.org, and join today as a member. They are the folks that have a full-time paid lobbyist right in Trenton. They are alerting the troops. You want to belong and be one of the troops. We need you. You need to make sure you’re a member of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs.

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Evan Nappen 01:27

We’re looking at an array of anti-gun bills that have now passed the Assembly and are heading to the Senate to be signed by Murphy. These are BAD bills. They’re really bad, and it’s going to impact severely.

Teddy Nappen 01:50

Would you say they’re Florio level bad or Murphy level bad?

Evan Nappen 01:55

They are just oppressive in new and creative ways. And it’s hard to say which one of those governors was worse. They both sucked when it comes to gun rights. And let me tell you about these bills. Number one, we have A4975. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2024/A4975/bill- text?f=A5000&n=4975_R1) Now this bill creates a crime, which is, of course, a felony level offense in New Jersey for possession of digital instructions to illegally manufacture firearms or components. All right? And what it does is it makes it a crime, even if you never make a gun, simply having the digital file on your computer is enough for you to be charged. Basically, they’re treating data and information about guns the way they treat child pornography. I can assure you that, with this bill, they will set up traps for individuals to unknowingly download this information and then track you and prosecute and raid you and take your guns and take your gun rights. Here we go again with this nonsense.

Evan Nappen 03:17

Then we have A4976. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2024/A4976) This bill is particularly horrendous and problematic. It actually creates a danger to public health, safety and welfare. It actually makes it more dangerous. This is a gun bill that they are putting forward going at the “reckless discharge of firearms”. What it does is it makes it a crime if you accidentally fire your gun. And it is really bad. Let me show you why this bill creates a danger. What the bill first does in terms of oppression is it makes discharge in a structure, which means any building, room, ship, vessel, car, vehicle or airplane or any place adapted for overnight accommodation of persons or for carrying on a business.

Evan Nappen 04:29

Now, a person commits a disorderly person’s offense, but don’t be fooled by this. This is sneaky garbage. Sneaky, gun rights oppression. Because, first of all, making it an offense at all is bad. A disorderly person’s offense carries up to six months in the county jail. It is not a felony at a disorderly person’s level. However, hang on, folks, because I’m not done. It then says, if you have a firearm go off with live ammunition, unlawfully or without lawful purpose. Unlawfully or without unlawful purpose. The so-called “reckless discharge” that occurs unlawfully or without lawful purpose. And if you get a second conviction, it’s a crime of the fourth degree, which carries up to a year and a half in State Prison. And if you get a subsequent or third conviction, that’s a crime of the third degree. That is up to five years in State Prison.

Evan Nappen 05:48

However, here’s the sneaky BS that they added to the bill. It says, a person who commits a violation of this, that I just talked about, all right? If you violate that section, shall be charged with a crime one

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degree higher than what ordinarily would be charged if such offense or violation occurs within 100 yards of an occupied structure. A school, university or educational institution. An occupied structure, folks. So, last I heard, your home is an occupied structure. Your vehicle that’s next to your house or somebody else’s house within 100 yards is an occupied structure. You’re within that little gimmick there that bumps the disorderly person’s offense to a fourth degree, felony level offense, for even your first offense.

Evan Nappen 07:02

Then it says that there’s no merger with this conviction, meaning it’s handled separately, and that there is no sentencing allowed to be consecutive. What that means is that it runs, it runs. It does run consecutive. I’m sorry. It runs consecutively, not concurrently. This means that the sentence imposed for the accidental discharge is separate from the sentence of any other sentence you may receive for anything else. They can’t be merged.

Evan Nappen 07:41

So, what they’ve done now is criminalize an accident. Just think if we did this with vehicles. Every single car accident somebody had would be prosecuted as a felony. Okay? Because that’s what they’re going to do to gun owners with this.

Teddy Nappen 08:00 I just have a question.

Evan Nappen 08:01

Because unless your accident had a lawful purpose to your accident, good luck. If it’s a lawful purpose to your accident, then I guess it’s not an accident. They are making any discharge here that’s not for a lawful purpose, a problem. It makes it not just potentially an offense, which is still criminal, but a felony level offense. And what does this mean? How does this now endanger public safety? What, Teddy? Tell me, what?

Teddy Nappen 08:39

Well, I was gonna say, like important, well, well, I know. I’m just curious because I thought you have to report accidental discharges.

Evan Nappen 08:46

No, no, no, no. Exactly the opposite. There is no requirement to report accidental discharges. And what this bill does is create essentially what most of these will be felonies. That means that upon an accidental discharge, given this law, a person immediately has a Fifth Amendment right against self- incrimination – immediately. So, if a round discharges and goes through your house to somebody else’s, or who knows where, and it hits somebody. Normally, a person might want to find out if a person is injured and might want to call the police and report it. But now you have a Fifth Amendment right against incriminating yourself. So, this bill is actually going to endanger the public more. By having this Fifth Amendment right immediately on this being a crime, then you’re not required to report yourself. You’re not required to incriminate yourself. So, if somebody is injured and maybe needs help, you’re not required, because you have a Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate yourself. So, this bill is probably

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going to have the reverse effect, and it is stupid. Accidents are accidents. Criminalizing accidents in this manner will have the opposite effect of what they’re trying to do and make it so that instead of proper procedures in which individuals can investigate and make it known about what happened, this will absolutely, completely discourage that. It’s as stupid as stupid gets. All in the name of oppressing gun owners. Because if you get charged with this, you’re going to lose your gun rights. First of all, being a convicted felon will automatically ruin your gun rights. But even if it remains at the disorderly person stage, at that lower offense, they still will use it to take away your firearm license.

Evan Nappen 11:10

Then we have A1389. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2024/A1389) This bill requires confiscation of ammunition and firearm components on a domestic violence restraining order. So, we already have the domestic violence laws in place where restraining orders are issued, and they’re issued ex parte. Just on the word of one person, who can be a liar. It doesn’t matter. And guns are seized. Now they’re going to seize ammunition, and they’re going to seize even components, whatever that means; parts, whatever; scopes. I don’t know. Who knows how far they’ll go with it. So, they’re going to basically try to take all your property that has anything to do with firearms.

Evan Nappen 11:56

A5345 mandates the use of Merchant Category Codes. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill- search/2024/A5345) You know, the gun rights folks have been fighting this merchant code that a lot of the credit card companies were doing so they can track gun purchases. There’s federal laws and other things pending to try to end doing this practice so that individuals are not having firearm purchases registered de facto, and here New Jersey is going to require it for anything along those lines. It’s basically Government sanctioned snooping so that they can further be Big Brother and further oppress our gun rights.

Evan Nappen 12:47

And then finally, we have A4981, which is the bill we’ve discussed before. (https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2024/A4981) That’s the Gun Owner Gulag bill. It now makes the Gun Owner Gulag, which is already a nightmare for gun owners, so that imprisonment before trial, where you’re convicted of nothing, and we’re trying to get you out, because New Jersey got rid of bail, they can basically hold you for an unlimited amount of time. Because the state is allowed to ask for more time until they get the firearm report, the operability report or their expert report over the gun. Those reports can take six months, sometimes longer, to get. I mean, it’s ridiculous. So, they’re just going to hold you. And, of course, if you have an accidental discharge, and they charge you with an accidental discharge, then they’re going to hold you in jail till they get the gun report. You’re not even proven guilty of anything.

Evan Nappen 13:47

It’s just a combination of absolute oppression, and we need to fight these bills. Unfortunately, in New Jersey, we have quite an uphill battle. Please make sure you join the Association and make sure your voice is heard. These things, of course, will be challenged in the courts, but, of course, that’s a slow process. Meanwhile, good people are going to suffer, and it has nothing to do with crime. Nothing to do with crime. It has to do with an agenda. An agenda to attack you and me. To go after the law-abiding

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and turn them into criminals and disenfranchise them and us of our rights. This is the game that New Jersey plays. So, be aware. Know the law. It’s the best way to protect yourself. The fight is still on, but it is just a nasty bunch of bills there, put forward by folks that have an agenda of hatred to you and me.

Teddy Nappen 14:55

Well, I just wanted to go back to the digital instructions for a moment. Because I’m just thinking, like, that’s very broad in their language for digital instructions. I mean, I can think of a variety of things. For instance, like an audio book that actually breaks down if someone’s reading like Carbine Williams and explaining how to assemble a gun from like, scratch.

Evan Nappen 15:19

Hey, who knows? There’s a lot of First Amendment issues in that. But yeah, New Jersey always makes the law broad. They never make it narrow. They make it as broad as possible to have a biggest sweep as possible. And you’re right. Who knows? Does it include those things? I don’t know. How about videos? Is a video, a digital instruction? I don’t know.

Teddy Nappen 15:43

Going a step further. What about video games where you build the firearm on there? Is that a digital instruction?

Evan Nappen 15:51

Who knows? Who knows? I’m sure they’ll try to include everything under the sun, because in New Jersey, their gun rights oppression knows no bounds. Now, on some other news, and it’s actually good news. In New Jersey rarely do we ever see good news. But we have some good news federally that is going to potentially dramatically impact New Jersey, and this is an avenue where New Jersey can actually regain rights and help end gun rights oppression. And this is the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. (https://www.gunowners.org/na032625/#:~:text=This%20GOA%2Dbacked%20nationwide%20carry,if% 20it%20reaches%20his%20desk.)

Evan Nappen 16:30

This is very exciting because the House Judiciary Committee. This is now in the Federal government. Chaired by Jim Jordan, the great Jim Jordan. The House Judiciary Committee just voted to advance Richard Hudson, the legislator, Hudson’s Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act for a full floor vote on the house. This is a nationwide carry bill that protects Constitutional carry. So, what it means is, not only if you’re a permit holder, but this is if you come from a Constitutional carry state where you can carry with no permission slip, no carry permit, you’ll be able to carry in every other state. That’s right. If you are simply a resident of a state where you are lawfully allowed to carry with no permit, that’s what we call Constitutional carry, you’ll be able to carry in every other state. This means that residents of Constitutional carry states will be able to carry in New Jersey with no permit. And that’s fantastic!

Evan Nappen 17:52

Because even if you’re a New Jersey resident, the fact that so many others will be able to carry with constitutional carry, it will impact our ability to get Constitutional carry in New Jersey. The restrictions

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that they place on New Jersey citizens will be essentially mooted out by this amazing federal law. So, let’s hope that Congress gets it passed. It’s exciting that it has been voted out of committee. Republicans do control both houses. Of course, they’d have to beat the filibuster rule in the Senate. But who knows. We have a lot going for us, including the Supreme Court case of Bruen, which established as a Constitutional right, our ability to have a firearm for self-defense outside the home. So, at least we’re making progress on that issue.

Evan Nappen 18:54

I also want to announce about the Knife Owners’ Protection Act (H.R. 60) another federal bill that was just marked up in the house. (https://kniferights.org/legislative-update/knife-owners-protection-act- marked-up-in-house/) And again, it’s been marked up in the Judiciary Committee with a 13 to 10 vote, and it’s now going to be voted on as well in the house. And what the Knife Owners’ Protection Act does is it protects knives the way the Gun Owner Protection Act protects guns. So, you’ll be able to take your knives and drive through bad states with knife prohibitions. Remember, knives are protected by the Second Amendment as well. It’s not the right to keep and bear guns. It’s the right to keep and bear arms, and this bill will allow knife transport safely. When secured, you can go through the bad states with your knives and not worry about some idiotic knife laws that a bad state has. So, this is really good. It’s called KOPA. K, O, P, A. The Firearm Owner Protection Act that has protected gun owners for years is FOPA. This is KOPA. KOPA is now coming up for a vote in the House and that’s a great thing.

Evan Nappen 20:10

I also want to mention to you what is called the Traveler’s Gun Rights Act. (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/travelers-gun-rights-act-for-active-duty-military-and-rv-ers/) This is a federal law that’s been put forward by Representative Dusty Johnson. It’s been reintroduced, and this will protect the gun rights, firearm rights, of folks without a permanent address, such as many active- duty military personnel and those who live and travel in an RV. Because, as many of you know, in order to buy a firearm now, you have to have a state of residence. Particularly if you’re buying a handgun, it has to be done in your state of residence. Well, folks without a permanent residence end up not being able to buy guns. This bill will allow individuals to buy guns that do not have a permanent residence. This will also make it so that they’d be able to purchase anywhere in the United States, which helps pave the way to get rid of the restrictions on having to purchase within a State. It’s going forward to helping to eventually end the restriction on where you can buy a handgun or a firearm for everybody else as a matter of fact. So, this is good, and it’s great to see these bills advancing federally, now that Republicans are in control federally, and we have President Trump that has absolutely promised to sign the pro- Second Amendment rights bills that go forward and fight the gun rights oppression that we’ve been dealing with for years.

Evan Nappen 21:58

Hey, let me tell you about our good friends at WeShoot. WeShoot is an indoor range in Lakewood, New Jersey. They also have a great pro shop, and they have some really cool guns that they are offering for sale. They have a CANik METE SFX Signature Series, and this is a really cool gun. The Signature Series is a nine millimeter. It technically could hold 18 plus one, but it has the 10 round mag for New Jersey. It has Warren Tactical sites, green fiber optic, enhanced flat face trigger for a crisp pull. It’s got

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a great ergonomic design, and it has custom SKETCH engraving. And it has Canik’s great reputation behind it. They also have a Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 in one of my favorite calibers, 10 millimeter. I own a 10 millimeter M&P. It’s a great gun, and WeShoot has them. This is a Performance Center version. So, their Performance Center version of the Smith M&P 2.0 10 millimeter. It takes it to another level. It has a 5.6 inch ported barrel. It has that crisp Performance Center flat-face trigger, and its optics ready. And it is great. Ten millimeters, great. It has a 15 plus one capacity, but 10 rounds for New Jersey, of course. And it is a great gun. Ten millimeter is very powerful, essentially that of a 41 Magnum. It’s one of the most popular handguns in bear country to carry.

Evan Nappen 23:51

WeShoot also has the TROY Carbine “Other”. They have the Troy Other for sale. That’s a very popular gun that is non-NFA, and it is New Jersey legal. It’s offered in black and bronze. So, check out that gun. It comes with the M-LOC handguard and attachments for superior handling. So, check it out at WeShoot. You’ll love it. I know you will. Great guns at WeShoot. Plus, they have a great range, and they have great training. They are a great resource right there in Lakewood, easily off the Parkway. Check out WeShoot at weshootusa.com. weshootusa.com. For more information on their website.

Evan Nappen 24:47

Now we have Teddy that’s going to do Press Checks. Because, as you know, Press Checks are free. Teddy, tell us what you have for us today.

Teddy Nappen 24:57

Oh. A little bit as all the both the highs and lows of the news of what you described in the last couple minutes. But one of the things that kind of, I don’t know, if people in the firearms industry and people have kind of been hearing about. All the repeated attacks on Sig Sauer with their P320. However, just a couple weeks ago, SIG, on their website, actually put it out that there was the Officer Elvis Berrios. He was the one who was suing SIG, saying that the P320 was able to discharge without pulling a trigger. He voluntarily dismissed his case and admitted to the court in documents that the pistol has no defects and does not discharge without pulling the trigger. (https://www.sigsauer.com/blog/case-dismissed- police-officer-admits-his-sig-sauer-p320-pistol-cannot-discharge-without-a-trigger-pull) Wow, that is one heck of an outcome.

Evan Nappen 25:55

Considering all the memes and publicity and everything about SIG and all. Now, at some point, they did have an issue over the drop, but they fixed the issue.

Teddy Nappen 26:05

Yeah, it was in 2017 that they had a voluntary upgrade for it where, you know, that was the meme going around of drop the gun, except if it’s a P320. That was the running gag in 2017. But they’ve very much fixed the issues. And they stand behind their pistol, which is fine. But one thing that kind of struck my mind is thinking like, what were some bad pistol designs that kind of were in play, that people were kind of talking about, like, looking throughout.

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Evan Nappen 26:35

There have been a number of them.

Teddy Nappen 26:37

Oh, yeah, a number of them

Evan Nappen 26:38

Now SIG, of course, has addressed their issues. So, I want to make that clear.

Teddy Nappen 26:43 Yeah.

Evan Nappen 26:44

They have addressed the issues, but there have been definitely. What guns were you thinking about in the past that are?

Teddy Nappen 26:52

The first one, well, it’s just basically me thinking about all the times we went to gun shows and walking around.

Evan Nappen 26:58

Oh yeah. We’ve had a lot of good times, haven’t we?

Teddy Nappen 27:01

Oh, yeah. And one that always caught my eye, that I always thought looked hilarious, was the Gyrojet pistol, or the rock.

Evan Nappen 27:08

You know, you’ve seen mine that I own. Of course, I own a Gyrojet because it’s too weird not to.

Teddy Nappen 27:22

It was actually designed by Robert Mainhardt and Arthur Biehl. The idea, and it was described, was the to shrink a bazooka down to pistol form, as opposed to, I know, right? It’s like who’s firing a bazooka and says, hey, I want that smaller.

Evan Nappen 27:39

It’s actually a rocket pistol. So, the round that it fires is like firing, I guess Elon would like a giant, right? Because it fires a rocket. It’s a rocket round that, by the way, the hammer hits the front of the cartridge.

Teddy Nappen 27:57 Yeah.

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Evan Nappen 27:58

It actually slams the front and then that makes it go backwards. Then it fires out the Gyrojet with rocket propulsion, resetting the hammer. But they’re notoriously inaccurate, by the way.

Teddy Nappen 28:15

Yes. So, there’s a few problems with that. One, as opposed to bullets, it’s using rocket rounds that travel faster.

Evan Nappen 28:22

By the way, those individual rounds are very valuable. Just having the ammo is collectible and expensive.

Teddy Nappen 28:29

To give you a perspective, when you fire the pistol, the round is traveling in the first 60 feet. It’s about going 100 feet per second.

Evan Nappen 28:38

Only a 100 feet per second?

Teddy Nappen 28:40

If you fired a nine millimeter, that goes 1200 feet per second.

Evan Nappen 28:45

But I think it gains speed, though, with its rocket propulsion.

Teddy Nappen 28:49

Yeah, but that’s you’re shooting up beyond the 600 feet, like you’re shooting

Evan Nappen 28:54

A Daisy BB gun gets 300 feet per second out the muzzle.

Teddy Nappen 29:00

Yeah? So, it’s not exactly the best design. When you were shooting at a 100 yard target, it was 50/50 that it hits it. It’s one of those that was not well marketed, not well designed. Although it was featured in You Only Live Twice, used by the Japanese spy master, Tiger.

Evan Nappen 29:20 Ha, ha.

Teddy Nappen 29:20 Yeah.

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Evan Nappen 29:21

So, I have one new in the box, just because it’s so weird. But it does look cool. I give it a high grade for it definitely has a cool look to it. It was innovative, but it just didn’t make it, man. It just didn’t.

Evan Nappen 29:37

Oh my God. That’s the one they set up our soldiers with when they would surrender. That gun will fire by pushing the bar on the outside of the gun. You can actually make it shoot without pulling the trigger. It is ridiculously dangerous.

Teddy Nappen 29:37

Yeah, and this is all from the National Interest. From what I was reading about the gyro jet, they had a very nice breakdown. It was kind of interesting reading through. The next one was out of Armory Life. They talk about everyone’s favorite, the most deadly pistol out of World War II, the Type 94 Nambu pistol. (https://www.thearmorylife.com/japanese-type-94-nambu/)

Teddy Nappen 30:12 Yeah, it’s also.

Evan Nappen 30:13

A suicide gun, man. Crazy.

Teddy Nappen 30:16

Yeah. And the design it was named. The real name was a 94 Shiki Kenju, and it was designed by (Kijiro)Nambu. Let’s just say it developed a very deadly reputation with that essentially, like.

Evan Nappen 30:29

Well, what would happen is that they would get the Japanese to surrender, and they make believe they were surrendering. They’d hold their handgun out like they’re giving it to the soldier, you know, to the U.S. soldier, like they’re surrendering. Then they could fire it by pushing the bar without their hand or finger on the trigger. So, they could fake out a surrender. And they actually used it that way.

Teddy Nappen 30:56

Yeah. And also the fact that the magazine was extremely tight. So, you’d have to, like, it would require, a screwdriver trying to pry it.

Evan Nappen 31:04

It is one lousy design, that is for damn sure. And I don’t know how a country that makes some of the finest sword blades ever made would make a gun that sucky, but they did.

Teddy Nappen 31:15

Yeah, but it wasn’t really. It was just one of those that’s very infamous. Here’s the one that I don’t think people realize, or it’s what I would describe as the Lottie of 45. The High Point.

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Evan Nappen 31:27

What do you mean a Lada? What’s a Lada? What’s a Lada?

Teddy Nappen 31:30

It runs. That car, the Russian car.

Evan Nappen 31:33

The crappy Russian car. Basically, the best thing you can say about is that it runs.

Teddy Nappen 31:39 Yeah, the Lada.

Evan Nappen 31:40

I think we knew a guy that had a Lada, didn’t we?

Teddy Nappen 31:43

Well, when I went to Bosnia, they had those Ladas all over.

Evan Nappen 31:47

Oh, man, yeah. But what gun do you think is the Lada?

Teddy Nappen 31:51 The High Point JHP 45.

Evan Nappen 31:55

Oh, their handgun. I have one of them, too, as you’ve seen. That is the heaviest, clunkiest pistol. And look, if you run out of ammo, just throw the gun at them. I mean, you can use it as a really amazing club.

Teddy Nappen 32:08

There was a pretty good review from Pew Pew Tactical, where his description was cheap and ugly. It is something you.

Evan Nappen 32:18

They do have excellent customer service from what I hear.

Teddy Nappen 32:21 Yeah, yeah.

Evan Nappen 32:22

And, oh man, that gun is just.

Teddy Nappen 32:24 What?

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Evan Nappen 32:25

And I don’t know how you’d carry that thing. It just.

Teddy Nappen 32:27 You can’t, at least.

Evan Nappen 32:28

You may as well just carry a Desert Eagle if you’re gonna carry that thing. It’s so heavy.

Teddy Nappen 32:33

Yeah. It’s incredibly hard to disassemble and make repairs, and

Evan Nappen 32:38

The trigger is so squishy. Oh, man, it’s.

Teddy Nappen 32:42

In a word, in the words, it runs. And you could. Actually it’s very good at eating very cheap ammunition.

Evan Nappen 32:48

Well, at least it shoots. And look, people that, you know, have a low budget. Hey, at least you can actually have something that goes bang, right?

Teddy Nappen 32:55

I know, but you’re going to feel a little embarrassed on the range if you’re using it. Another one from the Forgotten Weapons site is the Colt M13 Aircrewmen. (https://www.forgottenweapons.com/colt-m13- aircrewman-revolver-so-light-it-was-unsafe/)

Evan Nappen 32:55

No, no, the Smith and Wesson.

Evan Nappen 33:04

Well, there’s two. They have the Smith & Wesson, too.

Evan Nappen 33:12

The Colt and the Smith. I have one of the Smiths, a very rare aircrewmen. They were air weight, you know, to save weight. But, unfortunately, they couldn’t handle the .38 loads. The higher powered .38 loads.

Teddy Nappen 33:30

So, it was designed with the aluminum cylinder where they were supposed to use these low pressure 38 special ammunition. Except anyone there would just use the standard ammunition, and it would have a tendency to either explode or have the cylinder just crack in half because it couldn’t handle the standard loads.

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Evan Nappen 33:49

See now, the modern Smith and Wesson airway guns, their cylinders are steel or other very, very strong alloys. But this was, you know, made out of essentially, aluminum, even in the cylinder, and it just wasn’t a great idea, because it couldn’t take the pressure. But they’re very collectible because most of them were destroyed by the Government over this. So, those that survived.

Teddy Nappen 34:16

There’s currently only about 1189 there.

Evan Nappen 34:22 That’s pretty good.

Teddy Nappen 34:23

That’s the ones that are declared so and that was from ForgottenWeapons.com. And this one I think a lot of people know, from the 1945 site, the Colt 2000.

Evan Nappen 34:36

Oh, God. The Colt 2000. Okay, I purposely bought a Colt 2000 because it was so bad. I found one new in the box. That gun has the worst trigger pull of any gun ever. Basically, you pull the trigger and a year later, you’ll get to the back to find.

Teddy Nappen 34:59

It requires the 2000 poundage to actually pull the trigger.

Evan Nappen 35:02

Yeah, it is insane. I think they developed it because they wanted to hit the law enforcement market where it would have to be so determinative that you pulled the trigger that there could be no dispute. But it makes it extremely hard to shoot it accurately, and it’s just a beast.

Teddy Nappen 35:21

Oh, so it’s actually, it’s very.

Evan Nappen 35:23 That gun sucks.

Teddy Nappen 35:25

Which is very ironic, because the guy that designed, Eugene Stoner, the inventor of the AR 15.

Evan Nappen 35:30

Which is really shocking, considering that he made that it was Stoner that did it.

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Teddy Nappen 35:34

With Reed Knight Junior, another famous gun designer. They both made this gun that just and by the way, it had trouble cycling the mag, and if you dropped it, it would go off. And that was.

Evan Nappen 35:45

Other than that. It sounds like a great design for the Colt. Well, like I said, I bought one just because it’s that bad. I had to, I have to. Teddy, you know, I have to own these dogs.

Teddy Nappen 35:56 Which is very.

Teddy Nappen 35:56 Of course.

Evan Nappen 35:56

Because they’re just amazing. But hey, you progress, and then you end up with really great guns when you learn, hopefully learn, from your mistakes. Hey, this is definitely fun and interesting. But if you’ve ever shot a Colt 2000, I think you know what I’m talking about. Oh, my God. You can’t believe Colt put their name on it, even though it was created by such great designers. I think the problem was their goals were to hit a law enforcement market and really focus on a lot of the liability issues, but in so doing, it sacrificed so much of what makes a firearm.

Evan Nappen 36:06 Self-defense, it’s operability.

Teddy Nappen 36:36

Which is pretty bad, because if you have the trigger pull that hard, that’s how, like the dueling pistols that were used, that there were trick pistols that Hamilton used. It was the idea of having that crazy poundage on it, so you could essentially makes it harder to shoot.

Evan Nappen 37:01

I have one of those. I have this set of the Hamilton Burr dueling pistols. The exact reproductions that Uberti made in 1976 that had the secret trigger. That is why Hamilton was a cheat and a fraud. They make it out that oh, he fired into the ground. No, he had gimmick pistols that created a hair trigger, and he was too much of a dumb ass. So, he set the gun off. It went off because he wasn’t used to it, and Burr still hit him with that enormously heavy trigger because he didn’t know that it was gaffed and rigged to cheat. Burr still took out Hamilton with that dueling pistol. So, at least as a Vice President, you got to give him credit for dueling successfully when it was a cheater that he was going against.

Teddy Nappen 37:55 Well, it’s also.

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Evan Nappen 37:55

If you want to read more about that, you can go look at the Smithsonian Magazine, because it was Uberti, when they were making the reproduction, that they discovered this historical secret about the Hamilton / Burr dueling pistols. And by the way, Hamilton borrowed those guns. He had his own dueling pistols. He didn’t use his own. He borrowed these because they were gaffed. They were agimmick.

Teddy Nappen 38:02 Well.

Evan Nappen 38:04

And they were the cheater pistols.

Teddy Nappen 38:20

Well, they were the ones that actually his son used and was killed with. And he.

Evan Nappen 38:24

I know, and then he did it again with him. So, he doesn’t even learn from his mistakes. And on top of that, it is really a rewrite of history, the myth of Hamilton being some martyr. You know? It’s a load of garbage. The gun itself shows what Hamilton was up to, cheating. That’s what he was, a cheat.

Evan Nappen 38:47

Hey, we’ve got a letter here from Tony and Ask Evan. Tony says, since New Jersey is now issuing concealed carry permits via a document, meaning electronically, of course, is it legal to laminate the permit? So, you can laminate your permit. You just have to have a physical permit. I suggest having it physical because of the Duty to Disclose where you have to show your permit. If you have it on your phone, even though it may have been sent to you electronically, and you show your phone, your phone is going to be taken by the officer. And you don’t want to lose control of your phone, of course. Your best bet is having an actual permit, but if it’s laminated or that. It’s not an issue. There’s no law prohibiting that.

Evan Nappen 39:33

Now, let me tell you about our favorite segment of the show, although your Press Checks are great, Teddy. But this is one that everyone loves, and that is the GOFU, which is a Gun Owner Fuck Up. This is where expensive lessons get learned by others. You get to learn for free. And let me tell you about this GOFU, I see it happen a lot. When you are asked by your doctor about guns or asked about your mental condition, I don’t know if you’ve gone to the doctor, and they give you that little iPad to answer the questions. Do you feel anxiety? Do you feel depression? You know anything about that.

Evan Nappen 40:21

Now, look, if you’ve got problems, you need to address them. I get it. I’m not telling you not to. But what I do want to warn you about is that any of that stuff ends up potentially affecting your gun rights. If the information is out about it, it goes to the question, have you ever been treated or observed for any mental condition? You’re now reporting this voluntarily to your doctor, and you’re setting yourself up for a problem. Like I said, if you need help, you’ve got to get help. I get it. But keep in mind, if you’re just

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having a little bit of stress or anxiety, do you really want a record of that? You better make that choice and least know that when you write this stuff down, when you make a record of it, it can come back and bite you in the ass. We get clients where that very thing has happened.

Evan Nappen 41:08

Also, when they ask about the guns that you have? They can go pound sand. What do doctors know about guns? They have no reason to know whether you have guns or don’t have guns. This is a problem. If you think you have medical privacy, you don’t. Okay? You don’t. We’ve fought many licensing cases, many cases medical privacy. That’s a joke. When they can use it against your gun rights, you better know it. And if you end up revealing all kinds of things that you had no reason to have to say, you’re opening yourself up for a GOFU. I’ve seen it. I want you to keep that in mind. Be aware of that. It’s arguably a trap.

Evan Nappen 41:52

This is Evan Nappen and Teddy Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 2 42:01

Gun Lawyer is a CounterThink Media production. The music used in this broadcast was managed by Cosmo Music, New York, New York. Reach us by emailing Evan@gun.lawyer. The information and opinions in this broadcast do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state.

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