Episode 207-Make Money Saving America
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President Trump, Electoral College, Elon Musk, America PAC, gun registration, gun confiscation, Second Amendment, gun rights, New Jersey, gun laws, gun safety, valet parking, gun transfer, gun ownership, gun training

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Speaker 3, Evan Nappen

Evan Nappen 00:16

I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, how would you like to make money and save America at the same time? When I talk about saving America, I’m talking about this election, because it is literally going to be the most important election, not only in our lifetime, but probably in a century. I mean, it’s impossible to overstate how critical it is that we succeed. And by we, I mean President Trump gets reelected, because what is on the other side, as we’ve discussed, is absolutely the destruction of America versus making America the greatest country in modern history ever. And right now, we’re sliding down a slide, and without getting into all the other issues, we’re just thinking about our issue, which is, of course, Second Amendment rights.

Evan Nappen 01:25

I want to bring to your attention something that’s really exciting. And I think if you are able to do this, not only can you make a decent amount of money, but you can help to save America. Part of the key to the saving of America is to see the success of President Trump, and that success is very much dependent upon winning in the swing states. As you know, we have the Electoral College, and because of that, it is not the person who gets the most votes in the country, but rather who wins the state by state by state, which empowers various states to have greater and more balanced political power. And so, our electoral college was really quite ingenious by our Founding Fathers, and it’s part of the reason we haven’t completely collapsed.

Evan Nappen 02:27

Because if the majority were to be the folks who select the President, then what it would mean is that the high concentration of urban centers would control America, because that’s where the population is. If you want to see the demise of such states in a microcosm, the states that are the worst have the largest, centered urban populations that sink the state for individual rights, especially gun rights. So, if you want to see the worst states for gun rights that are gun rights’ oppressive states, they have the largest urban populations. You know, look at Illinois, where you have Chicago and New York, New York City. New Jersey, which is part of the megalopolis, incredibly populated in multiple cities, like Jersey City, one of the most populated places on the planet. Look at all the bade states. To California. Look at the urban centers there. They sink the politics.

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Evan Nappen 03:41

So, just imagine that on a scale of the United States in general, and you can see why that’s not good. Of the key critical swing states, Pennsylvania is absolutely critical, and here’s where the money comes in that you can make. Here’s where we have something very exciting that I want to share with you. Elon Musk is an amazing man. He just is an amazing futurist. He is somebody that, when I hear him speak, he is just a fantastic person to listen to, and a guy that gets you thinking. Elon, as you may know, has come out completely in support of President Trump, and he puts his money where his mouth is. What he has done is create a PAC called the America Pack, www.TheAmericaPAC.org. (https://theamericapac.org/) Elon is now offering to pay $30 per hour, plus bonuses for performance, if you join their team to help in the swing states. Being that so many of my beloved listeners are from New Jersey and the surrounding area, Pennsylvania, that’s where the action is. Look. I know we need to fight in New Jersey, and I get it. But in the national picture, winning Pennsylvania is critical.

Evan Nappen 05:31

And if you can join here, not only can you make $30 an hour plus bonuses for performances but get ready for this. Elon, through TheAmericaPAC, will also pay $47 for each registered voter that you refer who signs a petition pledging support for the First and Second Amendment. That’s right. Elon is stepping up with millions and millions of dollars to help protect not just the First Amendment, and not just to save America, but to protect the Second Amendment as well. And you can become a part of this, a party here to this. I think October 21 is the deadline. So, you’ve got to jump on this now. Go to AmericaPack.org and make money and fight for the Second Amendment. Fight for America and take advantage of what Elon Musk is offering. I think he’s already spent $43 million a month helping Trump. And look, he’s a practical guy. He sees that the key to winning is votes. It’s not just throwing money at it for the sake of throwing money at it or running ads. He’s creating a system here that he’s paying for. To get out the vote and win the day. So, this is very exciting. Make sure if you can take advantage of this opportunity that you do. It’s critical, because we do not want to end up like Sri Lanka. That’s right.

Evan Nappen 07:30

I have an article here from AmmoLand, one of the great gun rights news services that I. I get all of them, my friends, and I look for important articles to share with you. This article is by one of their writers, who I greatly admire, and I love to read his stuff. It’s Dean Weingarten. It says, “Gun Registration in Sri Lanka Equals Gun Confiscation”. (https://www.ammoland.com/2024/10/gun- registration-in-sri-lanka-equals-gun-confiscation/) So, you know, we’ve talked about gun registration, and you know the four words, right? If not, I’ll review them again. It begins with Legislation, which then creates Registration, and that leads to Confiscation, which then leads to Extermination. We’ve seen this pattern all throughout history, preceding every great Holocaust. We don’t want to go down that road at all. And here is Sarah Lanka illustrating for us phase three of the four words, because, according to Dean Weingarten from this great article, he said, “The Sri Lankan government has issued a gun confiscation directive requiring all people with firearms and a permit to possess them for self-defense to turn the firearms, ammunition, and permits they possess to the military authorities. The firearms must be surrendered by November 7, 2024.”

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Evan Nappen 09:07

Look at that, folks. Registration is leading directly to Confiscation. This is why the Biden-Harris Administration wants to make sure there’s no “ghost guns”. Whoo. You know guns with no serial number. Why? Well, then they’re real hard to confiscate, and you can’t register them with no serial number. That’s really what it’s about. They want to know where the guns are, so they can grab them and take them and disarm us and disenfranchise us from our Second Amendment rights. That’s what gun rights oppressors do, and that’s what we’re dealing with. Don’t fool yourself about a Kommiela who claims to be a gun owner and says she owns a Glock. Well, how nice. Except that she also is on record wanting confiscation of ALL Handguns. I guess that’s the definition of elitist, right there. Your guns get confiscated, but she owns a Glock, supposedly.

Evan Nappen 10:12

Let me say, just because someone’s a gun owner, does not mean they’re not a gun rights oppressor. The worst gun rights oppressors in history, during the existence of firearms, ALL owned firearms. Every tyrant, every dictator, every one of them, every Fascist, owned a gun. And guess what they did? Took away everybody else’s guns. But they were gun owners. Being a gun owner does not mean you’re not a gun rights oppressor. That doesn’t mean a damn thing. What matters is whether you stand with and for and in support of the Second Amendment. As demonstrated by her past history, she plainly does not. She’s called for confiscation of handguns, and she’s called for confiscation of modern sporting rifles. She’s a gun rights oppressor and needs to be stopped. So, Sarah Lanka is yet another example of why we oppose Registration. It leads, for a fact, to gun Confiscation.

Evan Nappen 11:34

And do you know who is helping to fight for us in New Jersey? Well, that is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the premier state gun rights organization. They’re the NRA affiliate. They’re the umbrella organization of gun rights protection, and they have individual members. You can be a member, and you really need to be a member. By being an individual member, you’re sent email alerts as to what’s going on in Trenton. You’re kept advised about the ongoing litigation that has been in federal court. Very successful! Continuing the fight to defeat the Carry Killer bill, the modern sporting rifle ban and the standard capacity magazine ban. Make sure you’re a member of your state Association. You can join the Association at ANJRPC.org. (www.anjrpc.org) That is the website for our great Association. It’s critical, especially these days, that you belong, because the fight is ever requiring our vigilance. By having a great group, we are united. So, go to anjrpc.org and join today.

Evan Nappen 13:14

Speaking of great places to join, we have our good friends at WeShoot. WeShoot is an indoor range in Lakewood, a premier range. It’s the range I shoot at. They offer you all the training and courses you need. You can get your New Jersey CCARE there to get your New Jersey Permit to Carry (PTC). They’re also offering the New York training so you can get your New York carry permit as well. They focus on helping folks to get licensed. If you know nothing about guns, go there and they’ll help you out. You’ll be well on the road to being a competent, responsible gun owner. And if you’re extremely skilled, they’ll be able to help you to practice and get even more training from really experienced people. They also have a great, great pro shop there. They run great events. WeShoot is in Lakewood, right there in

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Central Jersey. Easy to get to, right off the Parkway. Check out WeShoot at weshootusa.com, their website, with beautiful photography. WeShootUSA.com.

Evan Nappen 14:35

Right now, I have to shamelessly promote my book, which is the Bible of New Jersey gun law. It’s entitled, not surprisingly, New Jersey Gun Law. It’s over 500 pages with 120 topics, all in a question and answer format. It is your user guide to staying safe and not being arrested, going to jail and being a GOFU in New Jersey. It’s the book that has saved a lot of gun owners a lot of grief, and I’m proud of it. It’s also a book used by law enforcement throughout New Jersey — State Police Firearms Unit, lawyers, judges. But most importantly, 1000s and 1000s of gun owners throughout New Jersey rely on it. And you can get your copy, too. Go to EvanNappen.com. www.EvanNappen.com. You will see the big orange book. Order it today, and you’ll have it in a matter of days. Factory fresh. Make sure you scan the front cover on that QR and join my subscriber base. It’s private. It’s free. You can access the archives, and you’ll get updates of any changes so that your book will stay current. So, go to EvanNappen.com and get your New Jersey Gun Law book. It will help you to stay free from the matrix of insanity, known as New Jersey gun laws.

Evan Nappen 16:20

I have some great Ask Evans, and I love getting the questions. This one’s from John with a question about the assault weapon ban. Good. I don’t know, maybe good. Currently building an AR-15 and already have a pistol grip, removing the ability to have a folding or telescopic stock. But my question is, if I render the telescopic stock inoperable utilizing something such as a stock Lok? Love the podcast and thank you for educating me and many others.

Evan Nappen 17:04

So, what I believe John is getting at is, how do you have a compliant AR-15 now. Of course, we have that great case that the Association, ANJRPC, helped to win finding that the AR-15 prohibition is unconstitutional, but it’s on appeal. So, don’t go relying on it yet. But we did great, and we’re going to expand it and do even better, I’m sure. For now, you want to remain compliant. So, how do you remain compliant? Well, when it comes to the compliancy, you look to the Attorney General Guidelines, which are in my book, by the way, a complete, actual copy of the guidelines. You can also find them online. The guidelines make it clear as to what the Attorney General views as compliant or non-compliant, so- called assault firearms, what we prefer to call modern sporting rifles.

Evan Nappen 18:08

The compliancy works like this. First of all, if the firearm is a semi-automatic rifle that takes a detachable mag. Okay, a semi-automatic rifle that uses a detachable magazine. Then you have to make sure you do not have more than one of the following offending features. You can have one, but you can’t have two. Two is no good. This is starting to sound like the Monty Python skit on the Holy Hand Grenade, but it’s actually how the Guidelines work. So, what are the offending features? Well, number one, a pistol grip is an offending feature. You can have one. So, you can have a pistol grip, but after that, you can’t have any of the other things. Those include a flash hider, a flash suppressor / flash hider. You cannot have a threaded muzzle, but you can have a muzzle break or a compensator. If you

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have that on there, you cannot have the threading usable. So, you need to pin it or weld it, but do not have a flash suppressor, a flash hider.

Evan Nappen 19:31

You cannot have a grenade launcher. I know a lot of you like to go out grenade launching on the weekends, but do not have that on your gun, because that’s a prohibited offensive feature. A telescoping or folding stock. That’s because, if you can move a stock a couple inches back and forth, you know that it makes it an incredibly deadly firearm whose only purpose is to kill hundreds and hundreds of people. That couple inch movement of the stock is just, you know, intrinsically deadly, right? Of course, I’m being unbelievably sarcastic. The bottom line is, look, it’s an offending feature. You need to make sure that the stock is either completely pinned or welded or glued so that it cannot move. Or simply use a fixed stock, the traditional fixed stock. Then you’re okay.

Evan Nappen 20:35

So, make sure you don’t have that offending feature of a telescoping or folding stock, and if you are pinning it with whatever device that it be sufficient and permanent. Otherwise, you may be looking at three and a half years minimum mandatory, with up to 10 years in State Prison for you daring to possess such a deadly firearm. Also, make sure you don’t have a bayonet mount, because that’s an offending feature. At least that one makes sense, because we’ve got to do something about all those drive by bayonettings, right? Oh, my God. So, beware of the offending features. Make sure your gun is compliant. And John, that is my advice to you. Thanks for the good question.

Evan Nappen 20:35

But if you have a telescoping or folding stock, I once had a case where my guy had his stock pinned, and the prosecutor was prosecuting him for possession of an assault firearm, even though he bought it lawfully from a dealer. The only other offending feature, other than a pistol grip, was a telescoping M4 type stock that had been pinned. But the prosecutor wanted to put my client, with no prior offenses, in State Prison for up to 10 years with the minimum mandatory three and a half years, because she felt it wasn’t sufficiently pinned. That’s right, whether it was or wasn’t sufficiently pinned should make the difference as to whether or not your little stock goes two inches back and forth. As to whether you do three and a half years in State Prison with a minimum mandatory sentence, sounds reasonable, don’t you think? Yeah, right. That’s what we’re dealing with here. That kind of mentality, folks.

Evan Nappen 22:51

Now I have another one from Jim. Okay, we’re doing the J’s today. Jim says, Thank you for your weekly podcast. It’s very informative. Well, thank you, Jim. My question is this. Suppose I’m going to dinner or an event where I must leave my gun in the car, locked, of course, in a locked box or console vault. When I arrive at the event, I see valet parking only. Could this be considered an illegal transfer of my firearm? Anything else I should be aware of? I look forward to your opinion.

Evan Nappen 23:23

Well, it wouldn’t be an unlawful transfer, because you’re not giving them possession of the firearm. As a matter of fact, you’ve secured it and locked it as you properly should have to avoid that very thing. If they’re taking your gun, they’re stealing your gun. You’re only giving them permission to park your car,

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and your firearm is secured in the manner prescribed under the statute, by the way, under the sensitive place exemption. So, as long as it’s locked, and make sure you have a good quality lock box and don’t leave the key on your key ring if it’s a locking one, so they can access it. You know, don’t do a GOFU like that, right? But if it’s inaccessible, you have it cabled to the seat the way they usually do, or have it built in so it can’t just be removed and walked away with and it’s secured in that fashion, then you’re not transferring, Jack, are you? So, that’s okay. But be very aware of otherwise leaving guns in cars. Because if it’s identified as such, then they may bring in law enforcement, and you may have an escalation.

Evan Nappen 24:34

Particularly bad. I’ve had many, many cases out of the casinos in New Jersey with a valet for some reason. I don’t know why. They’re just supposed to park the car. But somehow they ended up going through the glove boxes, the consoles the back of the seat. They’re like searching your car, and they find a gun and they call the police. My question. What were they looking for in the first place? Hmmmmm… Be careful of all your belongings when you valet park at the casinos, because obviously that’s what they’re up to. But if they find a gun, well, I’ve had many of those cases, and I don’t mean the gun in the secured lock box. I’m talking about, unfortunately, people that leave their gun in the car who come from other states, what have you, and they make a GOFU. The valet finds it. So, yeah, valet parking can be troublesome. They can be a big problem. Also, your valuables are subject to theft by them, not even talking about the guns. I hear horror story after horror story. I hate valet parking for that reason. But if you must valet park, make sure your gun is secured. It’s not an illegal transfer. It may lead to other problems, but not an illegal transfer. All right, Jim, thanks for a great question.

Evan Nappen 25:57

Let’s talk about this week’s segment that we all look forward to – the GOFU. That’s the Gun Owner Fuck Up. And why do we talk about GOFUs? And that’s because these are expensive mistakes made by other folks that you get to learn for free. It costs you nothing, so you don’t become the next GOFU. And this GOFU . . . Well, with this GOFU, I’m just going to talk about almost what qualifies as a public figure, the “Rust” armorer. That’s right. Remember Hannah Gutierrez-Reed? The dumb ass that had live ammunition on the movie set of “Rust” whose responsibility was to keep the place safe. She got convicted of the involuntary manslaughter. Even though the anti-gun Alec Baldwin got off based on the prosecutors’ failure to properly secure evidence and do their job, but she didn’t. She was convicted.

Evan Nappen 27:15

Well, guess what? She’s in even more trouble, even more trouble. You can read this article on TAG, The Truth About Guns. It’s by Mark Chesnut and titled “Rust Armorer In More Gun Trouble”. (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/rust-armorer-in-more-gun-trouble/) But the reason I’m talking about it is it’s a great GOFU because of the more trouble she’s in. Forget about leaving live ammo where there shouldn’t be. That’s, of course, a GOFU on the part of her professionalism required to be an Armorer. But I’m not even talking about that. Get a load of this new stuff. When the investigator searched her cell phone during the “Rust” investigation, they found a video of her with a handgun in the bathroom of a bar, in the self-filmed video. It was shot a few weeks before the “Rust” movie filming, and she explained how she snuck the prohibited firearm into the establishment.

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Evan Nappen 28:21

So, obviously, in this jurisdiction, as in New Jersey, currently, you can’t have a gun in a liquor establishment, a licensed liquor establishment. Oh my. She pled guilty in exchange for 18 months of probation for this one, because she’s already doing time on the other one. So, what’s the GOFU here, folks? If you’re illegally carrying your gun, don’t film yourself doing it and brag about it. Do I have to say this? Do you need to write that one down? I mean, good grief. Can you believe this knucklehead was an Armorer at all? That she was in charge of gun safety issues at all? I mean, I think the negligence on the part of Baldwin was hiring her. There’s a negligence. It’s unbelievable with this person. Anyway, quit making videos and turning yourself into a GOFU. Believe me, I get cases where that’s the case. A video comes out like this, and I say, what were you thinking? Why was this even on video? Don’t be that guy or gal.

Evan Nappen 29:51

This is Evan Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 3 30:02

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About The HostEvan Nappen, Esq.

Known as “America’s Gun Lawyer,” Evan Nappen is above all a tireless defender of justice. Author of eight bestselling books and countless articles on firearms, knives, and weapons history and the law, a certified Firearms Instructor, and avid weapons collector and historian with a vast collection that spans almost five decades — it’s no wonder he’s become the trusted, go-to expert for local, industry and national media outlets.

Regularly called on by radio, television and online news media for his commentary and expertise on breaking news Evan has appeared countless shows including Fox News – Judge Jeanine, CNN – Lou Dobbs, Court TV, Real Talk on WOR, It’s Your Call with Lyn Doyle, Tom Gresham’s Gun Talk, and Cam & Company/NRA News.

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