Nicole Rowan, co-paster of Presence OC joins Lisa & Talee on Grace Space. She shares how she got into ministry, what she likes most about it, why she's passionate about women living up to their calling and how she came about writing Kingdom Daughters. They also dig into the historical context of a couple of "clobber" bible passages typically used to prevent women from leadership positions to see if something more is going on.

Check out Nicole at nicolerowan.com presenceoc.org @nicolelynnrowan Get her book Kingdom Daughters here

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