Kate and Aaron talk to Tracy Stone-Manning, former director of the Bureau of Land Management and current president of the Wilderness Society. Tracy tells us what it was like to inherit an agency that was decimated by the first Trump administration and what she’s worried about this time around—but also, what’s giving her hope for America’s public lands.

We also cover the news that a provision to sell-off hundreds of thousands of acres of public lands in Utah and Nevada has been stripped from the budget reconciliation package.

• Maloy’s public land sell-off struck from Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill’ – Salt Lake Tribune
• House GOP Passes Budget Dismantling Public Land Protections, But Stops Short Of Sell-Off – Public Domain
• The Wilderness Society selects new president to lead conservation efforts

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Hosts: Kate Groetzinger & Aaron Weiss 

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Music: Purple Planet

Featured image: Courtesy TWS

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