James is emotional about Little Mix but Dan's ready to get our guest on.

Today we're joined by the brilliantly funny, feisty, and fierce Jamie Windust to talk about their new book In Their Shoes: Navigating Non-Binary Life. 

Dan’s seen Jamie in a coffee shop ‘by the BBC’ and thinks they’re brave. Is that insulting? We talk about their dating experiences with ‘chasers’, being cut off from family… and ask if we're part of the problem.

Thanks for coming to our TED talk, watch Jamie’s here https://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_windust_support_for_trans_people_isn_t_radical_it_s_urgent

Support for trans people isn’t radical, it’s urgent.

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