Ben Samuels, President, Source Rock Midstream stopped by the Energy News Beat (ENB) podcast. Just to set this one up, Ben and I have been talking smack with Ryan Ray on social media and have an absolute blast.

We cover water in the Permian, apathetic behavior the resulting damaging aspect, and human rights. We also agree that ESG should not be even talked about unless there are accountability standards in place. Companies like Source Rock Midstream take ESG very seriously.

Now I have to admit that Ben's great talking points even caused me to have a moment of reflection about myself. Seeing people being harmed and or discriminated about has two different kinds of witnesses. Those that watch on the sideline, and those that step in and protect the victims. I can tell you that personally after being in several life or death situations, immediate action defending people is my reaction. Not everyone will react in the same way. Ben brings up some great points about discrimination and even the holocaust.

Thank you Ben for stopping by the ENB podcast. (Ryan, you may not want to listen to this as you are the Butt end of a lot of jokes. Ben and I cracked ourselves up. Pun)