End of the Chain

End of the Chain


On-chain Insurance - Hugh Karp - Nexus Mutual

May 07, 2020

About this episode


Hugh Karp joins this episode to discuss onchain insurance, protecting Defi against hacks and what it means for the insurance companies of the future.


Hugh Karp is the Founder of Nexus Mutual, an automated discretionary mutual running on Ethereum. He is an insurance professional and actuary with over 15 years of experience in the insurance industry. He has held a variety of roles in both primary and reinsurance companies including as CFO for a global reinsurers’ Life operations in the UK.


Hugh's Links


Linkedin | Twitter | Medium


Nexus Mutual


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What to listen for



  • Why insurance is one of the massive verticals in the real-world financial economy and why it is now being built on-chain in the DeFi economy.
  • Why insurance came about as a community method of sharing risk between people.
  • How their decentralized protocol prices risk on-chain and how they developed their crypto risk pricing framework.
  • What the recent bZx hack and Black Thursday taught Nexus about their smart contract cover and why they need to look at creating complete coverage to meet the needs of the evolving DeFi space.
  • Why Nexus can provide any insurance product on-chain so long as its members vote on it and the staking around the risks being covered.
  • Why Hugh thinks their risk pricing framework could be applied to exotic products like digital art or tokenized assets in the future.
  • As a huge privacy proponent, Hugh is worried about going too far too fast in the pursuit of privacy in DeFi and the perceived political risk to the ecosystem from regulatory/political clampdown as a result.
  • Why Hugh loves experimentation, but maybe we should do this without putting massive amounts of funds at risk.
  • Why sometimes we are running before we can walk in DeFi.

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