In this episode, Matt chats to the incredible A'Lelia Bundles author of 'Self Made' a mini-series now available on Netflix starring Octavia Spencer. The daughter of formerly enslaved parents, Sarah Breedlove—who would become known as Madam C. J. Walker—was orphaned at seven, married at fourteen, and widowed at twenty. She spent the better part of the next two decades laboring as a washerwoman for $1.50 a week. Then—with the discovery of a revolutionary hair care formula for black women—everything changed. By her death in 1919, Walker managed to overcome astonishing odds: building a storied beauty empire from the ground up, amassing wealth unprecedented among black women, and devoting her life to philanthropy and social activism.

Tune in as A'Lelia gives her thoughts on Hollywood, the power of a story and behind the scenes insights into the making of 'Self Made'.