We like to have fun on We're All Gonna Die, but this week we talk about a more serious topic—the human element of the immigration debate in the country.

On today's pod, the crew talks with Christine Bolaños about her story regarding Melvin Griselda Cruz-Lopez, a mother trying to see her daughter again while being held in an immigrant detention center in Texas.

The story, which you can check out here, is gripping and heart-breaking as it details the struggle Griselda has faced in trying to see her daughter, Samantha, and her case for asylum.

Bolaños tells the team about the process of writing the story, tackling such sensitive matters, and more.

Closing music: "Curiosity" by Lee Rosevere