CIA 2024 is here, ladies and gentlemen! This year, we're kicking off our annual apologetics workshop with a much-needed conversation surrounding church leadership, accountability, and the doctrine of the Trinity. In this podcast episode, Frank sits down with our good friend, author, and Christian YouTuber, Allen Parr, about what's going on with pastors in Dallas and which analogies for the Trinity just don't work. During their conversation, Frank and Allen will answer questions like:

• Can fallen pastors be restored? And if so, under what circumstances?
• What role should elders play in holding pastors accountable?
• How have pastors often been able to escape church discipline and accountability?
• Does hypocrisy and poor behavior shown by church leadership prove that Christianity isn't true?
• Where can we find the Trinity in the Bible, and what analogies (if any) can be used to explain it?

Allen will also share some of the details of his recent conversation with Cindy Clemishire, the woman who was victimized by former Gateway Pastor Robert Morris when she was just an adolescent. We'll tackle some pretty touchy subjects and explore what the Bible says about these unfortunate instances of church scandals. We know you'll enjoy this exclusive CIA podcast episode, so be on the lookout for more conversations from more great apologists!

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Allen's website: AllenParr.com

Allen's YouTube channel: The B.E.A.T.

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