This time Eric welcomes back to CounterPunch Moscow-based historian, sociologist, and author Boris Kagarlitsky to discuss the situation in Russia more than 6 months after the invasion of Ukraine. Eric and Boris explore the economic and social reality for ordinary Russians in the wake of the sanctions and economic war. Boris explains why so much analysis from the western Left misses the mark, especially in understanding Russia's motivations for the war, as well as the importance of recognizing the material interests of Russian elites in driving this war. The conversation also touches on everything from Russian poor and working class soldiers and the importance of Crimea in the strategic calculus to the possibility of regime change and "Putinism without Putin." Don't miss this important conversation with one of Russia's leading political minds.

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