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Robert Stark talks to commentator Charles Lincoln on slavery and the prison-industrial complex. Topics include:

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• How imprisonment replaced slavery
  
• The 13th Amendment and the exception it made for imprisonment
  
• Prohibition and laws criminalizing what one does with their body
  
• American folk heroes that would be criminalized today and how the essence of America was “lawless freedom”
  
• The Prison Economy
  
• The creation of the Department of Justice and the Federal Prison System after the Civil War
  
• US Prison conditions and how they are worse than slavery
  
• Charles Lincoln’s Prison Experience