Conscientization 101

Conscientization 101


EP.059: Is Apartheid Really Dead? Redux: A Dialogue with Dr. Julian Kunnie Part 1 of 3

December 23, 2024

Dr. Julian E. Kunnie, professor of religious, Latin American, Middle Eastern and North African studies at the University of Arizona.

It has been over 20 years since the publication of Dr. Julian Kunnie’s prescient and perspicacious treatise, Is Apartheid Really Dead?: Pan Africanist Working-Class Critical Perspectives, and nine years since we first dialogued with Dr. Kunnie about his book (podcast episodes 9 and 10), so what is the political terrain of Azania (South Africa) today? Is the analysis of Is Apartheid Really Dead? in regards to post-apartheid Azania still relevant today? Is Azania finally a fully sovereign nation run by its autochthonous inhabitants? If not, is it on its way? Or worse, is Dr. Kunnie’s analysis just as relevant today as it was when his book was first published; which means Azania is still suffering under neocolonial hegemony, which makes true revolutionary Pan-African working-class sovereignty for Azania a mere chimera?


In this episode of Conscientization 101 podcast, we present part one of a three-part dialogue with Dr. Julian Kunnie in regards to these vexing questions.


And while the aforementioned book was the original impetus for this dialogue; we also incorporate Dr. Kunnie’s other publication, The Cost of Globalization: Dangers to the Earth and Its People (podcast episodes 23-25), his forthcoming book The Earth Mother and the Assault of Capitalism: Living Sustainably with All Lifescheduled for release on April 23, 2025–as well as a myriad of other topics.


In part one of our scintillating series with Dr. Kunnie, we set the stage for parts two and three, by giving an analysis of the impact of imperialism on the world’s people and ecosystem, and much more.


We also debut our new podcast intro: written, mixed, and performed by our esteemed brother Raggo Zulu Rebel! We also discuss details about our new Conscientization 101 Premium Podcast subscription; as well as the hand Raggo Zulu Rebel played in assisting us with our premium podcast subscription by introducing us to UK based music producer–and graphic designer we might add–Morfius! A very providential occurrence indeed.


And if that wasn’t enough, we also discuss the following:



  • Settler colonialism, Palestine, and why resistance against settler colonialism is never a casus belli
  • The election of a choleric, misanthropic, septuagenarian to the U.S. presidency.
  • The utterly absurd, out of touch, and reactionary presidential campaign of the Democratic party
  • Neocolonialism and wokeness

And, much more!


This episode features music from:



Excerpts for our Morfius anecdote were from the following:



  • Cyclonious – “My Name Is Morfius” from his Heroes For Hire album
  • Big Cakes – “The Outro” from his album CCC, and “Twitter” from his album KFC (we purchased this album on November 13, 2014, but when researching for the link to this album on November 26, 2024, we noticed the only place this was available was on Big Cake’s Bandcamp page, and this track no longer on the album)
  • Raggo Zulu Rebel – “Give It To Dem” (feat. Jayjayborn2sing) from his album The Return of Jah Messenger – Vol. 2, and “Babylon” from his album Ganja Music Vol. 2

 Morfius Instagram: @MorfiusUK


Donnie Mossberg Instagram: @machingunfunk



The Podcast Was Just A Snippet Of The Interview. Want to Listen To The Unabridged Interview? Try C-101 Premium Podcast Free For 7 Days!