The Common Good podcast is a conversation about the significance of place, eliminating economic isolation and the structure of belonging. For this episode, we’ll hear the Abundant Community Conversation between David Cayley, Peter Block and John McKnight. Every couple of months the Common Good Collective helps to produce these interactive conversations on Zoom and they always contain music or poetry, small groups and an exploration of a particular theme with a community practitioner. In this Abundant Community Conversation, John and Peter speak with David Cayley about Ivan Illich and his understanding of freedom and friendship.David Cayley is a Canadian writer and broadcaster. He has produced and presented hundreds of radio documentaries, including two five-hour series with Ivan Illich, and published seven books, among them The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich & Ivan Illich: An Intellectual Journey.Courtney Napier sings a rendition of Nina Simone's "I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel to Be Free." She is a freelance journalist and writer from Raleigh, North Carolina. She is the founder of Black Oak Society —a community of Black writers and artists in the greater Raleigh area—and the editor of BOS Zine. Her work can be found in INDY Week and Scalawag Magazine, as well as on her blog, Courtney Has Words. Courtney chose to write because she wanted the untold stories of marginalized residents to be shared and preserved for generations to come. Her spouse and two children are a daily source of love and inspiration. She is also in charge of the Common Good Reader.Be on the lookout for upcoming Abundant Community Conversations. You can find more information about the Common Good Collective at commongood.cc. This episode has been guest hosted and produced by me, Joey Taylor and the music is from Jeff Gorman.