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This episode is hosted by Kenny and Trevor. Today we have guest Frank Wilderson, professor of Drama and African American studies at the University of California, Irvine. We talk about hs book Afropessimism (https://www.amazon.com/Afropessimism-Frank-Wilderson-III/dp/163149614X) and what it tells us about the current moment we're in today with the George Floyd and Breonna Taylor protests.

Co-produced & edited by Aaron C. Schroeder / Pierced Ears Recording Co, Seattle WA (piercedearsmusic@gmail.com). Opening theme composed by T. Beaulieu. Closing theme composed by Dustfingaz (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRazhu_)