Jeff, Scott & Zack are joined by Zack's wife Lisa (from Grace Space podcast, subscribe HERE). Lisa has some feedback about marijuana on a previous episode before they dig a bit into Zack's background. And tragedy them stuck early in their marriage. How are they surviving? And how did tragedy change how they look at each other, other people and their faith. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll...craugh? Sorry. Also, this episode was recorded prior to the election so there's a couple of references that are obviously dated (that's the podcasting time machine in action!)

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