Anthony and Alex get down to business from the jump, a TIPSY about Force Majeure Clauses" and a YaiYai-ism about "everyone taking a piece". Longtime personal friend of the pod hosts, Lisa DeFino Director for The Institute of Meetings and Events of the L. Robert Payne School of Hospitality and Tourism Management at San Diego State University joins the conversation today. The trio get into Lisa and Anthony's shared onsite experience through a rain storm on the USS Midway. They get into the challenges of getting students engaged and socialized after 3 years of a pandemic. She gets into her desire to see more emphasis on financial management, AI's impact on education and they even get into her past experiences as an animal trainer. Get into this episode now!



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