This episode of Real English Conversations is part 5 of Lori and Kyla's discussion about a book they both liked: Daily Rituals, by Mason Currey. This is the FINAL part of this conversation. First they talk about feeling overwhelmed by the never-ending stream of emails that land in their inboxes. Then they discuss what Kyla learned from William James about structuring the mundane parts of your day so you can have time and space to do your really important work. This episode is marked explicit because at the end of the conversation, Lori says a couple of mildly vulgar swear words. Nothing serious, but if you are extremely sensitive to any kind of rude language, you will want to skip this one.

The transcript includes explanations of the vocabulary and key grammar and usage points. It's a great tool for you to test your listening comprehension, or to use as a basis for discussion with your teacher, your language exchange partner, or your other friends who are learning English.

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