Van Ton-Quinlivan joins us to discuss what she calls the fire hose and the garden hose of workforce demand and provides various models for developing an ecosystem of education partners to deliver adult friendly education at scale. Her insights from a distinguished career in the public, private, and nonprofit sectors have helped her devise enterprise models for upskilling frontline workers by harnessing community colleges and the private sector in both the energy and healthcare sectors. A nationally recognized thinker and do-er in workforce development, Van’s organization Futuro Health has become a catalyst for economic mobility in healthcare. She describes approaches from her book and podcast, Workforce RX, that leaders can use to “slay the dragons” of private and public bureaucracies and disrupt legacy workforce development models to develop solutions for frontline workers.