(August 10, 2021 - Hour Two)

10:14pm - Tonight in the 2nd our I will break format in a fairly dramatic way. A number of months ago, show contributor and Texas Monthly BBQ Editor Daniel Vaughn, turned me on to a podcast documentary called "Relative Unknown". He said I might be interested in it because there was a "Cleveland connection" in it. So I took his suggestion, loaded it into the podcast app and was HOOKED from there! If you are into motorcycle clubs, Hells Angels, the Bomb City and everything else that was going on in Cleveland back in the mid 70's and 80's, then this is a podcast for you.

Jackee Taylor, narrator of the podcast and daughter of the main character of the podcast, will join me to talk about how this documentary came together and what it was like living with Butch Crouch before they were spit apart and she was sent into the WITSEC program. The 2nd half of our conversation will focus on the WITSEC program itself, what her experience has been like and what she would do, if she could, to make it better for those in the program now and in the future.

Is it BBQ related...NOPE! However, if there is some way I can use the show's platform to help shine on a light on a program that very few of us know anything about and try to help make it better, than I am happy to do this for Jackee and anyone else that might benefit from it!

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