How many threads lead to a world of violence as a life’s work? In this week’s episode of The Artful Periscope, Larry invites author Gregg Podolski onto the show to discuss his debut novel, The Recruiter. Larry and Gregg start with a lightning round, comparing Gregg to the protagonist of The Recruiter, Rick Carter. Then they move on to discuss Thrillerfest 2024, navigating the morally gre yworld of Rick’s profession, exploring the assassins Rick comes into contact with over the course of the novel, and writing action sequences as well as realistic dialogue.

After the break, Larry welcomes Claire Isenthal onto the show to discuss her novel (also a debut!) The Rising Order. Claire starts off with her childhood moving from place to place, eventually moving back with her family to Indiana, where she began working on The Rising Order. Larry and Claire discuss the dystopian setting of the novel, the relationship between the protagonist Flynn and the dangerous antagonist Wolf and how the novel’s story serves as a warning about societal divisiveness leading to the rise of extremist groups.