Jim Manico and I connected a few years ago through some of the OWASP meetings he presented at in Denver.  He was talking about cross-site scripting prevention, and in the brief training, I knew that Jim would be a great person to know if I ever needed to educate people.  Fast forward a few years, and here we are talking about secure coding and how to train the world of developers that they’re security engineers first now.  Jim and I talked about Manicode and his journey of owning his own business, and what that process has been like for him. 00:00 Intro. 04:00 Going solo and Pillar 4 makes an appearance. 07:00 How to code. 10:00 How to talk to your security folks if you’re a developer. 22:00 Software development is a team sport. 24:00 Jim’s career goals. 30:00 Times Jim’s made a pivot successfully. 33:00 Mentorship and PIllar 6. 37:00 Handling burnout. 39:00 Jim loves LEMUR – The certificate orchestration suite from Netflix. Tools that Jim touched on: OWASP ASVs, OWASP Cheat Sheet Series, and last but certainly not least Jim’s Training website, Manicode.com.  If you need any coding training done – I can’t recommend Jim highly enough.  Fidelity is measured by small steps over many years, and Jim is who he is today because he’s the same guy I met years ago, only better.