Jared Janes and Jason Snyder have a wide-ranging conversation with Euvie Ivanova. They discuss the ancient art of adulting, society's developmental stage model, technology and the self, the positives and negatives of social media,...

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder introduce themselves, talk about what led them to start the Both And podcast, and why they think better conversations are essential for building bridges in our culture war and creating better ways...