True Comfort

True Comfort


Growing Up With a Womanizing Father and a Mother in the Occult – with Clay Jones.

December 19, 2025

Is God to blame for the horror in the world? If He is good, why is there so much suffering, genocide, and pain?


We often ask, "Why do bad things happen to good people?" But in this provocative episode, Dr. Clay Jones (author of Why Does God Allow Evil?) flips the question upside down. With radical honesty, Clay shares how a deep dive into the darkest parts of human history (from the Holocaust to the Killing Fields) convinced him that the problem isn't God. The problem is us.


Clay opens up about his own upbringing with an atheist father and a mother in the occult, and shares the sobering truth that gave him hope in the midst of a broken world. We discuss the myth of the "good person," why God values free will over robots, and why Satan wants you to believe Heaven will be boring.


If you have ever doubted God’s goodness while walking through pain, this conversation will give you a new perspective on suffering and a breathtaking view of the Eternity that awaits you.


In this episode, we cover:

The "Good Person" Myth: Why Clay believes there are no good people (and why even Bill Maher agrees).

Clay’s Story: Growing up between the occult and atheism, and the moment fear woke him up to Jesus.

The Problem of Evil: Is it God’s fault, or is it the result of being "Adam and Eve's" children?

Free Will vs. Robots: Why God allows us to choose wrong, and what Sci-Fi movies teach us about love.

The "Boring Heaven" Lie: Debunking the idea of sitting on clouds forever. (Yes, God created pleasure!)


Resources Mentioned:

Why Does God Allow Evil? by Clay Jones

Immortal: How the Fear of Death Drives Us and What We Do About It by Clay Jones

The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis


CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Intro & Clay’s Turbulent Childhood

06:11 - The Shame of Sin & Pornography

10:36 - Studying Genocide: Looking Evil in the Face

18:37 - Why Do We Suffer for Adam’s Sin?

24:34 - The Hard Truth: "There Are No Good People"

30:16 - Self-Interest vs. True Goodness (The Abortion Debate)

39:58 - Why God Didn't Create Robots (The Free Will Defense)

50:15 - Will We Have Free Will in Heaven?

59:52 - Debunking the Myth of a "Boring" Heaven

1:08:50 - How to Focus on Eternity in a Suffering World


About the Guest: Clay Jones is the author of Why Does God Allow Evil? and Immortal. He served as a professor of Christian Apologetics at Talbot School of Theology for 16 years. He specializes in the problem of evil and the promise of eternal life - https://clayjones.net/


About True Comfort: It is our desire to live out 2 Corinthians 1:3-4, assuring us that we have a God who comforts us in all our afflictions so that we may share that comfort with others. We explore the reasons for the Biblical worldview while holding space for heartbreak and healing.


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