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Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode!   Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 FBI Negotiator's Extensive 30-Year Career 03:15 Origins of FBI Negotiation Training 08:26 "Lessons from Hostage Negotiations" 10:32 "Waco: Negotiation Success and Challenges" 13:34 "Conflicting Strategies in Negotiations" 17:37 "Tragedy and Blame on Koresh" 21:15 Development of the HOBAS Data System 28:04 Team Collaboration Enhances Negotiation Success 33:18 "Former FBI Agent Shares Story" 34:11 "Journey of Writing and Editing" 40:04 Formation of National Negotiation Collective 42:03 Guidelines for Viable Negotiation Programs 46:07 July 4th, Beeper, and Crisis 50:25 "Empathy and Connection in Negotiation" 52:32 "Expert Insights on Negotiation Strategies" 55:05 Advocating for Negotiation-Driven Solutions 58:10 "Reflecting on Negotiations and Saving Lives"   Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator describes “stalling for time” as a core negotiation strategy. What are the potential advantages and disadvantages of this approach in high-stakes crisis situations? The episode covers some common misconceptions about the Waco incident. Based on Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator's perspective, how do media narratives shape public understanding of law enforcement actions during major crises? Negotiations are often described as a team effort, contrary to Hollywood portrayals of lone negotiators. What are the key roles on a negotiation team, and how do they contribute to successful outcomes? Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator emphasizes the importance of “active listening” skills. Why do you think active listening became such a transformative practice in crisis negotiation, and can you think of examples outside law enforcement where these skills are essential? The episode discusses how organizational leadership can sometimes be at odds with negotiation teams during incidents like Waco. What are some strategies negotiators can use to gain and maintain the trust of incident commanders? Reflecting on the aftermath of Waco, what lessons were learned that changed FBI and police procedures in crisis negotiations going forward? Are these changes still relevant today? The HOBA system was developed to gather statistics on negotiation situations. How can data collection and analysis improve future crisis negotiation tactics and outcomes? Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator argues that “negotiations never fail.” Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not? What advice from Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator's career do you think is most applicable for someone just starting out in crisis negotiation or any other high-pressure communications field? The episode touches on the international and national collaboration between negotiators (Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator mentions NCNA and international working groups). How important is collaboration across departments, regions, or countries in building stronger crisis negotiation practices?   Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now!    - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America      - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation      - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Guest Introduction: Gary Noesner Discover Gary’s decades-long FBI career and role in major incidents like Waco. More info: Gary Noesner’s Official Site Gary Noesner’s Book: “Stalling for Time” Real stories and negotiation lessons from his FBI career. Find the book: Stalling for Time on Amazon Waco Insight Gary’s perspective on the negotiation at Waco and unraveling the truth behind common misconceptions. Reference: Waco: The Series on Paramount HOBAS System The Hostage Barricade Database System developed after Waco, tracking negotiation statistics. Learn more: FBI HOBAS Overview Active Listening Skills in Negotiation Why active listening became the centerpiece of FBI training, thanks to Gary’s influence. Training resource: Active Listening Skills in Law Enforcement The National Council of Negotiation Associations (NCNA) National guidelines and best practices for negotiation teams, co-founded by Gary. Details: NCNA Official Guidelines Icons of Influence New video series with Gary, Jack Cambria, and Andy Prisco, sharing negotiation wisdom. Watch: Jumpstart Mastery - Icons of Influence Radio and Television News Directors Association Guidelines Best practices for news media at crisis scenes. Find the guidelines: RTNDA Codes of Ethics VoiceFarmers Voiceover Academy Voiceover training and services, as featured in the episode. 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Tell us about them now and we’ll link to them and have them on a future episode of CrisisCop.Com!   The Host of this Program: Pat Doering Pat Doering began his career as a police officer in 1996 and has served as a Police Hostage Negotiator since 2004. He has received formal negotiation training from the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard), and the Negotiation Program at Harvard University. As a graduate of the FBI National Academy (Class 248),