The Real Shift: The Real Broker Podcast

The Real Shift: The Real Broker Podcast


Simplicity, Stock, and Success at Real with Matt Kochis

August 16, 2025

In this episode of The Real Shift, Templeton Walker and Kristen Cantrell sit down with top-producing agent Matt Kochis to unpack his first year at Real Brokerage. From humble beginnings as a teacher making less than $30K a year to building a thriving real estate business, Matt shares the mindset, systems, and community that helped him reach Elite Agent status. He opens up about the wealth-building power of Real’s model, why simplicity is genius in business, and his best advice for agents considering a move.


Show Notes:

  • Matt’s journey from teaching to becoming a full-time real estate professional in 2006
  • How he achieved Elite Agent status in his first year at Real — and what it took to get there
  • Why Real’s stock and revenue share model creates long-term wealth (and forced savings!) for agents
  • The power of keeping business simple — from “market in a minute” videos to running a team efficiently
  • Matt’s advice for agents weighing a brokerage move and how to build a sustainable, relationship-based business


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Co-Host: @heykristencantrell

Co-Host: @Templeton_walker

Guest: @homekoach


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