The Real Shift: The Real Broker Podcast

The Real Shift: The Real Broker Podcast


Ep. 10: Simplicity, Stock, and Success at Real with Matt Kochis

August 16, 2025

In this episode of The Real Shift, Templeton Walker and Kristen Cantrell sit down with top-producing agent Matt Kochis to unpack his first year at Real Brokerage. From humble beginnings as a teacher making less than $30K a year to building a thriving real estate business, Matt shares the mindset, systems, and community that helped him reach Elite Agent status. He opens up about the wealth-building power of Real’s model, why simplicity is genius in business, and his best advice for agents considering a move.


Show Notes:

  • Matt’s journey from teaching to becoming a full-time real estate professional in 2006
  • How he achieved Elite Agent status in his first year at Real — and what it took to get there
  • Why Real’s stock and revenue share model creates long-term wealth (and forced savings!) for agents
  • The power of keeping business simple — from “market in a minute” videos to running a team efficiently
  • Matt’s advice for agents weighing a brokerage move and how to build a sustainable, relationship-based business


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Co-Host: @heykristencantrell

Co-Host: @Templeton_walker

Guest: @homekoach


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