Industrial Strength Podcast

Industrial Strength Podcast – Episode 22: It’s Smoke... Or Is It?
Episode Overview
In this kickoff to a new mini-series on "First Calls," the team revisits a perplexing chemical incident involving a mysterious white cloud inside a chemical operations building. What starts as a routine product workup turns into an emergency response puzzle involving volatile chemical reactions, PPE decisions, and an operator who noped out mid-incident.
Through firsthand storytelling and expert banter, Steve, Randy, and Jeff dive deep into what happened, how they assessed the situation, and what they’d do differently in hindsight.
Segment Breakdown & Timestamps
(0:30 – 1:36) Introductions
Meet the hosts – experienced hazmat technicians and specialists from industrial backgrounds.
(1:36 – 2:54) Setting the Scene
Steve introduces the incident: a white cloud appears during a routine process, prompting ERT involvement.
(2:54 – 4:23) Initial Assessment & Suspect Chemicals
The team identifies chemicals involved – including chlorine, butyl lithium, THF, EVE, TFAA, and TEA – and starts evaluating possible reactions.
(4:23 – 6:12) Layout & Room Design
Details about the process room design – including reinforced walls and blowout sections – and its implications for containment and safety.
(6:12 – 9:02) Chemical Reactions & Smoke Source Theory
Randy provides insight into how TFAA and TEA may have reacted in a humid environment, creating an acid-base reaction and generating white smoke.
(9:02 – 11:13) Eyewitness Vanishes
A key operator flees the scene as the night shift arrives, leaving the ERT without firsthand information about what happened.
(11:13 – 13:13) Mitigation Strategy
Without a clear cause, the team decides to finish charging the remaining TFAA to remove a variable and stabilize the situation.
(13:13 – 16:19) PPE Selection & Suit Debate
A debate on Level A vs. Level B protection, and the real-world PPE used by operations vs. emergency response.
(16:19 – 20:23) Steve’s First Call – In the Hot Seat
Steve describes his PPE during this, his very first call, and how he was suited up in a hybrid setup of air jacket and waders.
(20:23 – 21:36) Final Observations & Discovery
After the smoke dissipates, the root cause is revealed: a leaky manway gasket venting vapors into the room.
(21:36 – 25:06) Hypothetical Entry & Decon Talk
The crew discusses how they’d handle an emergency entry: meters to bring (PID, pH paper, colorimetric tubes) and decon procedures (water vs. sodium bicarbonate).
(25:06 – 26:14) Communication Failures
A previous shift had noticed similar smoke events multiple times… and never reported it.
(26:14 – 28:32) Wrap-up & Teasers
Banters, jokes, and what’s coming next – fire extinguishing with chemicals!
Chemicals Discussed
- TFAA (Trifluoroacetic Anhydride) – Hygroscopic and highly reactive with water, produces acids.
- TEA (Triethylamine) – A strong base, highly reactive with acids.
- Butyl Lithium, THF, EVE – Additional hazardous players.
- Reaction Suspected: Acid-base interaction accelerated by humidity.
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Stay tuned for the next episode: “Fighting Fire With... Chemicals?”
And as always... Hazmat harder.